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Archive of Nov 2007 to May 2008[]
Advice[]
Thanks for the advice. I'm kinda new to editing wikis and I was just trying to learn --Flodarien 02:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hammerfall[]
Where did you get the before/after screenshots? --SWM2448 02:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I took them myself a long time ago. Back in the day I took a lot of shots for wallpapers. --
(Sssss/Slithered) 02:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Bozorgmehr[]
Thanks for the move. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xshayathiya (talk · contr).
Subzones[]
Do not add subzones to places unless they are named in-game, RPG locations and fan names are sometimes confuseing.--SWM2448 22:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Only added the subzone, due to it being on the list of Elwynn Forest's subzones. If its going to be linked in there, it should have an exit link back to it. (Sssss/Slithered) 22:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Its fixed. 
(Sssss/Slithered) 22:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Links are not always correct.--SWM2448 22:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes. I am sorry.--SWM2448 22:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Stubs and SD[]
Please do not remove {{sd}} from stubs if there is no content and you are not adding any. This is per policy: "Do not mark empty pages as stubs. Stubs are for expanding info currently present, not a method for removing red (broken) links." --Pcj (T•C) 05:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
Thalassian Pass High Elf[]
Well I can only guess that the line you removed was referring to Adon. Is he involved in quests now (besides being one of the oldest easter eggs in the game, :p)?Baggins 07:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yea, I couldn't remember his name, but thats the only elf near the pass....I /slap him all the time lol. (Sssss/Slithered) 07:07, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- ...I didn't answer your question, haha, but yea, I heard the blood elf pallies have to go talk to him or something, during their class quests. (Sssss/Slithered) 07:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, that seems weird... Its not mentioned on his page at all.Baggins 07:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, doesn't look like any quests link to him according to any of the WoW database sites.Baggins 07:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Adon is not a part of the BE paladin epic chain, though there is a quest that takes place not far from him. --Joshmaul 06:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Missed one[]
Here; should have removed Category:Cities. Just a note for the future. :) --Sky (talk | con | wh) 21:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- I miss a lot of things, but I know if something is changed it will appear on the recent changes list, and someone might catch it =) (Sssss/Slithered) 04:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Foxbot update tag[]
Just a few notes about this edit: |date= should be in Month Year format (|date=December 2007) rather than |date=Day Month; |tiponly=true is used to update tooltips in pages that already have content (and thus would lose some if the whole page is automatically generated), and results in spectacular failure if used on blank pages. You can always check User talk:Foxbot/UpdateItem for the update tag syntax. -- Starlightblunder 16:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yea, sorry about the tiponly ones I did, just noticed where I copy and paste it from had it in there. Normally I don't use the tiponly parameter as I usually tag new items. As for the date thing, I was only doing it the way I saw others doing it. Didn't realize it was month year. (Sssss/Slithered) 18:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
sig[]
would you mind shrinking the picture? it breaks up talk pages pretty badly. --Sky (t | c | w) 05:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
There we go. Came out nicely. {T•C) 05:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, Coobra! I gushed about this in the related Discussion page already, but I really wanted to address you specifically to say, the sig discussed here is really visually striking. That is, impressive. I've been hankering for one of my own for some time, but with the appearance of the squished-A Coobra, I finally buckled down to it. You inspired me ... you ... cool snake man guy, you. THANKS, and the best of health to you. User:JIM the Inventor/Sig1 09:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Neat, don't think I've every inspired someone online before. And thankyou for such kind words. {T•C) 19:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I thought Woltk wasn't out yet[]
how did ur char gain the death knight class?User:Igotanger/Sig 15:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- I haven't yet...but thats my reserved name on that server for one. {T•C) 21:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
How do u do thatUser:Igotanger/Sig 05:07, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- I created a placeholder...by simply making a new character with the name you want. Then when ready to use you can delete the character and make what you want with the name. {T•C) 05:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Poke[]
WP:MOS states that headings should be in lower-case, except for the first word and any proper nouns. Just dropping by to letcha' know. --Sky (t | c | w) 05:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Are you talking about capping of with the section Objective of , if so...then darn...at first I was doing it with a lowercase o then they were being changed to an uppercase O by an admin, (don't recall who), so I thought that was the norm and starting doing it myself......I'm going to have to read all these policies one day lol. {T•C) 05:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
[16D] Returning the Lost Satchel[]
"19:01, 16 January 2008 Coobra (Talk | contribs) m (1,600 bytes) (fixed rep)" I just did the quest. I know how much Rep you get. Wanna see a screenshot? If you want to do the style and content police you should at least know what you are doing. And when you are fixing this, can you please also replace the "Under Construction" template at the Hidden Enemies quest chain by something other, like "Needs to be extended", or something like this? (Reeina 01:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC))
- Just for your information, every source says the quest gives 350 rep, not 500...very rarely does a simple quest give that much rep for one of the main factions. So yes, I would like to see this screenshot. As for the "under construction" stub, if you are done with that page then remove it. Otherwise post your updates in the discussion page, not the official page. If you want to use a different stub, you can use either {{Stub/Quest}} or {{Stub/Other}}. Oh, and there's no reason for your rudeness. {T•C) 02:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- If somebody would "correct" every article you worked on and then copy/pasted a template onto your talk page that basically says: Read the rules! - How would you feel? And when you first pointed me to Help:Quest articles and later talked about "unwritten rules", do you think that is nice? Here is the screenshot, to justify myself:
And why should I post my updates on the discussion page and not the official page? My apologies for being rude. (Reeina 07:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC))
- If somebody would "correct" every article you worked on and then copy/pasted a template onto your talk page that basically says: Read the rules! - How would you feel? And when you first pointed me to Help:Quest articles and later talked about "unwritten rules", do you think that is nice? Here is the screenshot, to justify myself:
- Well, I've had someone "correct" articles I've worked on, even have had them tagged for complete replacement (just because of one or two missing lines). So I know how you feel and I'm sorry I did that to you. As for posting updates, The official page (or article page) is for only known information about the subject, not for personal notes. So if you want to let others know you're still working on it, you place a {{Construction}} or use the discussion page and talk about what it needs or might not need.
- I did the quest myself and undid my changes yesterday. Sorry I didn't believe you at first...it was rare to see quests give more than 250 back when I did those quests and to see them jump to 500...makes my characters feel...well... old. And when our 3 main sources of info are out-of-date, sometimes proof or citation is needed.
- Had someone the other week believe Highlord Kruul was still in-game and removed the removed from game tag, stating in the edit summary line that he was indeed still there. But offered no proof to this when several of the rest of us have never seen him since BC came out. Sometimes certain people have to be watched, like new ones. But you've show to know your stuff, so you need not worry about eyes over your shoulders ... too much =D {T•C) 19:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Had someone the other week believe Highlord Kruul was still in-game and removed the removed from game tag, stating in the edit summary line that he was indeed still there. But offered no proof to this when several of the rest of us have never seen him since BC came out. Sometimes certain people have to be watched, like new ones. But you've show to know your stuff, so you need not worry about eyes over your shoulders ... too much =D
- Old... my main is still turning in runecloth and morrowgrain to the elves.... at this rate, I'll get my wintersaber faster than a nightsaber. --Eirik Ratcatcher 22:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
elinks-quest gone?[]
So why did little timmy have to die? er... why did you remove the Elinks-quest template from that page? There's not even discussion on the template's talk page that it is being deprecated. I've been including it - and yes, despite the tooltip inclusion - because someone had come behind me in the past and included it. ... and I find it useful anyway. Tooltip at top of page, I don't have to scroll back up when I reach the page end...--Eirik Ratcatcher 22:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Which page...any quest page that has the external links at the bottom I have removed, cause there's no sense in having it there. All information is given on the page. So unless you're looking to edit the page, you need not go to other sites to see the same info. {T•C) 23:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- You -did- read what I wrote in the comment above, didn't you? :)
- More, your argument extends to removing the entire gains/rewards section. I don't find removing either one to be helpful. --Eirik Ratcatcher 23:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- I was about to add: I use the links to see commentary not included on Wowwiki (when I'm not editing). But your "unless" implies that for most purposes, even the links in the tooltip "should be removed". I am... puzzled. Perhaps you meant something else? --Eirik Ratcatcher 23:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- The links in the tooltip are kept for the purpose of not only for quick access to other sites to keep the information up-to-date, but are there for the ones that want a second opinion. But They are not needed in both places. If you'd rather them at the bottom, have a vote on it.
- I haven't removed them. - both element sets (external links, money/xp/item/faction) are duplicated in the tooltip, yet are being treated differently. --Eirik Ratcatcher 18:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Vote created. Would you be so kind as to register your vote at the top of the "yes" list, and add your POV to either the proposal, or comments, or both? I have no idea how the vote will turn out, btw, which is another spur to my putting it to a vote. --Eirik Ratcatcher 19:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- GRR! Gotta learn not to be so quick on the 'save' button. Elinks vote --19:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know how that is, heh. The hand is quicker than the eye...that saying has never been so true.
- Knowing votes lately...this one might take a few months. Personally, after all this discussing it, I saw your point, and was ready to concede. But lets see how the votes end up anyway. {T•C) 20:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, friend. We may have to /bump it a few times on the VP, to get anyone to notice... :) --Eirik Ratcatcher 23:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Troll Kickers and friends[]
Hi Coobra, I really don't understand why you think that
[Troll Kickers] or
[Troll Kickers] or
[Troll Kickers]
is better then
[Troll Kickers (mail)] or
[Troll Kickers (leather)] or
[Troll Kickers (cloth)]
Why do you insist on forcing users to click on links blindly when you could display some of the info directly. I don't like the article name extensions in brackets either and avoid to display them if possible. But having two or (in this case) three links that look exactly the same without any obvious explanation is rather pointless, actually contraproductive.
Beside from hat: Keep going! (Reeina 14:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC))
- Ok, you can't click on the links in tooltips. But whether you can click on them or not, I don't think it is helpful this way, cause the first thing that comes to my mind is that somebody copied the same template and forgot to edit it. And in
[Letter from Lor'themar Theron] the quests don't appear in the tooltip. I really think, if the name extension helps to distinguish between different items with the same name within one article, it should be displayed.(Reeina 22:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC))
Stone of the Tides[]
Thank you ... mostly, anyway.... I'm amused that you prefer "Description" to "Quest text", and prefer a BR token to a hard CR (which for me accomplishes the same thing). --Eirik Ratcatcher 20:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I presume that you personally verified the lack of reputation on
[37] The Haunted Isle? Checking The Usual Sources gave me different answers. For cases like that, I prefer having someone's first hand account to avoid echo chambering. --Eirik Ratcatcher 20:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help![]
Thanks for catching my typo and flagging my trophy fish list for extra additions. I was having some newbie difficulty with translating the template, and am planning on working on those pages more now that I have figured out how to link the icons and costs correctly. Two questions if you will: 1 - How long usually after being flagged does the bot usually update? 2 - If I update a page prior to the bot updating, I assume I am ok to remove the bot request, or does it need additional review?
Trilless 11:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Delete votes[]
Do you have any valid reasons to keep the images marked for deleting? Saying that they should be kept because they are "hawt" isn't what I would call a valid argument. And if you want the artist's work then just look at his DA page...--g0urra[T҂C] 12:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
*poke*--g0urra[T҂C] 21:53, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Jpgs[]
Not sure if this was how to put something onto someone else's page (was looking for a start a new topic), but *shrugs* here goes. Was gonna ask about the jpg images. Even at compression of 85% the words for the mob name blurs. Should I stop clicking on the mob to have it's name appear? I just was doing that to show proof that it is indeed that mob and we're not being lazy by screening one that looks like it somewhere else. Advice?
Also, since I asked, is there a way to pm/whisper/etc someone without it being this public? Not that I have any reason currently, but just in case I'd like advice like this again, it doesn't have to go on a page like this. --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 07:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, they ask that screenshots for mobs/npcs that go into the npcbox be cropped where you don't see their name, but I've been guilty of having their names in the shot myself... as for whispering certain people and not making a public note on a talk page... could always ask for someone email, other than that, not really, since wiki's aren't generally for communication like forums are. {T•C) 20:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'll see if I can reupload the pictures that I've done recently, then. I didn't know about the no-name policy, but it makes it decidedly easier to take the screenshots. =D It'll also give me a chance to jpg the pngs that I've done. --User:Innocentlysassy/Sig 01:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Quest chain names[]
Shouldn't be under the "" pseudo namespace. Such as "Nothing But The Truth quest chain" should be at Nothing But The Truth quest chain. Thanks! --Sky (t | c | w) 23:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- In fact, if you don't plan on expanding the pages, they should probably be relocated to the template namespace, as "T:Nothing but the truth,". Make a "C:Quest progression templates" if you must. :) --Sky (t | c | w) 23:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've added further comments about this on Sky's talk page... :) --Eirik Ratcatcher 19:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Found again the comment on Sky's page. Felt guilty enough to do some updating to Help: Quest chain articles/Preload. Would appreciate feedback if you would. --Eirik Ratcatcher 18:17, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Slightly related: [1] is going to get you beaten by me. The idea was that quest chains with less than 4 or 5 steps don't transclude anything. You've done it in a few places, most of which are sitting in AfSPE. I'll poke away at the ones that need fixing as I clear the category; no need for you to go back and fix them. --Sky (t · c · w) 07:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, well, the voices are a-tellin' me that you need some whipping. So what's it gonna be, the spaghetti or the macaronis? --Sky (t · c · w) 07:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
book template[]
Any reason why you're including a ====Header==== in the template call? It looks like it breaks the template as on 
[Damp Diary Page (Day 512)] with the two separate [edit] links. Previewing the page without the header line seems to work okay, so I'm curious as to why you're doing it like that. --k_d3 22:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Cause there's currently no other way to prevent the first letter doing this:
Diary - Day 512
- Since it's not a book, that doesn't look good, so I've been doing that for items that began oddly like [A Bloodstained Journal Page] which contains "..." at the beginnning. Which would make it appear as such:
. . .downward spiral of despair.
- So unless a way comes up to be able to turn it off in the parameters, the header is the only choice. {T•C) 23:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Sympathies for your recent interruption[]
That was a particularly uninventive page vandal. I figure, if you're going to go through the trouble of insulting someone, you really ought to make it a work of art. Otherwise, why not simply throw a feather pillow into a wood chipper or something? Best of luck, and keep up the good work. --Eirik Ratcatcher 18:39, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yea... but I had fun with him on his talk page... I which caused him to add that wall of kill my ass ... which still doesn't make sense to me... How do I kill my ass? Sit on it? lol {T•C) 20:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Book by John Ringo, "There Will Be Dragons". Scene in it: Two foes. The Bad Guy hurls a typical schoolyard insult at Our Hero. Our Hero, someone who is essentially an SCAer, proceeds to go down a list, insulting every characteristic of his foe, point by point. The trivial insults of the fellow who vandalized your page reminded me of that scene. I aspire to that level of glibness, someday, but my writer is a hack. I don't know that I've ever gotten past the Slushpile of Life. --Eirik Ratcatcher 00:44, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Comment[]
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. ~~Sacrilage 07:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks[]
...for the welcome! TravisTX 21:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Adding templates to other user's pages...[]
I don't think it's really your place to judge whether other users are frequent editors. In any case, please do not add user templates to my user page without discussing it with me first. --Pcj (T•C) 06:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
sd-ing[]
A note: we don't SD pages in the main space, and attempt to avoid SDing pages in the other namespaces, if they have incoming links. Please either fix up the incoming pages when you tag something for SD, or don't tag it at all (the first is infinitely preferable to the second). Thanks! --Sky (t · c · w) 03:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- That move from main to user space which saw you not-promptly fixing the page. Apologies, and an eh. Let it serve as a reminder anyway. =] --Sky (t · c · w) 05:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Indeed. Such is the life of an admin. --Sky (t · c · w) 06:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Gnome at a desk thing[]
Aww... thanks.--SWM2448 20:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Login issues[]
Hey, we had some user account issues earlier - if you are able to login okay, please prod me. If not, can you try and contact me somehow - IRC would probably be best. Thanks! (Your account is being fixed as I write this) Kirkburn talk contr 20:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks[]
Thanks for your help on the Mount lore article, let me know what else I can do. also maybe could you please help me on this article i just wrote? Mount Quartermasters. Ben1 20:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
woot![]
The page looks pretty now, thanks, and i learn things by looking at your code,lol.
Ben1 00:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Popeye[]
Hey coobra, I attempted to do as you suggested initially, however I couldn't edit that page at the time - i.e. 'this page is locked for editing'. I can still only 'view source' not 'edit' at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Violations, I presume due to the fact this account is very new still. Thanks for chasing me up =) Popeye 06:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
WP:CAT[]
Read it. Know it. Love it.
In other words, lower case your categories. =] --Sky (t · c · w) 07:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
- I plan to make image categories the next project I get together, I think, so there's going to be some fun that way. --Sky (t · c · w) 00:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Reputation page[]
Please, go to Talk:Reputation#Patch_2.4.0. to discuss. Thank you. --LStranger 14:33, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi[]
Hi Coobra,
Just to say thanks for the welcome message on my talk page and the comment on Gourra's - I'm kinda new at writing on wikis and it's good to know there are some people more sensitive than Gourra (see his first comment on my page)! Dwarfish 20:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
C:MfSDE[]
Have you double checked that all the images there have no incoming links, whether from inclusion in articles or actual links? If so, I can go crazy. =) --Sky (t · c · w) 23:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Poke, for something unrelated: Please don't use {{PAGENAME} inside the bold. I can't really explain why, but would you do it for me? :) --Sky (t · c · w) 02:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you want to be a Watchdog?[]
You seem like a good candidate for the Wowpedia:Watchdogs. Good job creating new pages, by the way. --
Fandyllic (talk · contr) 3:04 PM PST 25 Apr 2008
Sorry[]
Sorry, i didnt realise what i had done, ill go away and do some more research before i start editing things again. --Keladrin 22:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Signatures[]
Hey Cobra how do you make the signatures?--Gwyain 00:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
My Fanfic[]
Hey mate, could you tell me why have you changed my .png images in .jpg?--
12:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Please ban me.[]
I do not want to make a complete retard of my self again ): --The last Alterac (talk) 07:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- I Don't have that ability, ask Baggins. {T•C) 07:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry for making you feel like that, wowwiki's motto is "be bold". You were trying to make a productive edit but it didn't work out. Don't leave. Arcanedeath (talk · contr)
Igotanger[]
He may not come back, but is some of the mess he made great enough to be removed?--Sandwichman2449 (talk) 02:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Eh, he was new at the time, spent most of his time trying to figure out his sig, you can undo my change if you like, but I just don't see an admin banning him for a page he created some months ago that others continued work on it. {T•C) 02:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Continued work on it? Eh... Banning is pointless, but his comments are a bit of an eyesore.--Sandwichman2449 (talk) 02:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Tributes[]
BTW, I like the inset boxed version of the tribute messages. If you can update each of the related character pages with that version it would be apprecieated, :).Baggins (talk) 04:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
BlizzCon 2008 announced[]
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,145775-c,games/article.html
I plan on attending this year - in character as Kendrall. Now, if I can just come up with the cash... - Kendrall (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
elink-staticdrop[]
You've cobbled together elink-item and elink-object on at least two pages that I've traversed, putting them into a table. I'm thinking that you're at the point where making a template that does both duties is worthwhile. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, I might later on.. but right now I'm over half-way done with that current project and I don't really want to go back over it until I'm done. {T•C) 04:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Now's the best time to consider it. Most of the benefit of such a new template would be in making your life easier IN that project. Been there, done that. You're attention span, though, so do as best suits you. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
RE: Armor shots[]
I just queried the item model in-game, and it's the same looks. I have no idea what M1330 is going on about.--g0urra[T҂C] 20:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)