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Updating for cata
When you add the removedfromgame template onto articles which were taken out with 4.0.3a, instead of adding a sentence noting that in the intro, just use the patch parameter ->. This will also throw into into the correct category. Thank you, 00:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Alliance-Horde War
I will not stop until the page is neutral. No one has given me any reason as to why a page about the war was so biased. This is an information site, not an opinion or discussion forum. It is simply not right for the massacre at Taurajo to be overlooked while the Forsaken are depicted as monsters for defending themselves. Pages here are not meant to be pro-Horde or pro-Alliance, just pro-information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.


 * It is your opinion that the Forsaken's campaign is cruel and genocidal. Yes, their invasion of Gilneas was wrong and their tactics can be extreme, but if you pay attention to dialogue from Crowley, he makes it clear he intends to genocide the Forsaken and steal Lordaeron, which is Forsaken territory. From the Forsaken perspective, they are defending themselves and their people. What the Forsaken did in Silverpine and Hillsbrad Foothills was self-defense. The worgen were on an invasion of their own, and the Forsaken acted to prevent loss of territory. They attacked Southshore because it was a military staging ground and supply port for the Alliance. They didn't attack it just because they hate humans. They attacked it to prevent an invasion. I don't care what Drek'Thar's reasons are. He was content to risk an Alliance victory and let them step all over the Forsaken.


 * Camp Taurajo was subjected to a brutal massacre. It was a peaceful little village that had very little to do with the war effort. The Alliance general may have given orders to spare civilians, but he wasn't there for the actual attack, and numerous Horde quests show his men did not follow his orders and slaughtered anyone they could. Honoring the Dead is one quest that shows that the Alliance showed nobody mercy. One paticular tauren, Yonada, died trying to protect children.


 * This site is meant to have information displayed, not biased views. Calling the Forsaken's campaign genocidal is an Alliance view. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Unlike Taurajo, where almost no one survived, many humans escaped from Southshore and Hillsbrad. The journal of Clerk Horrace Whitesteed attests to this. It says many people were aware that an attack was coming and evacuated from both towns, while others remained behind voluntarily. While at Taurajo, the attack was launched without warning and no one had time to evacuate before hand. Another source is the quest The Waters Run Red..., where the sheer number of Hillsbrad humans-turned-worgen shows that far more people survived in Hillsbrad Foothills than in the Southern Barrens. Hunting down the survivors to raise them as undead is cruel, yes, but we must remember the Alliance was on the offensive in Silverpine and the Forsaken were desperate in that conflict for a time. They needed to boost their numbers fast. I am not defending their actions, but I believe their decision there was more about their own survival rather than their hate for humans.

I genuinely believe the Forsaken have no intentions of genociding all life in Lordaeron. If that were true, wouldn't they be fighting the Argent Crusade as well? They simply want to remove the two other factions that have been threatening their existance for years, the Alliance and the Scarlet Crusade. Overall, the Forsaken are a mix between tragic heroes and tragic villians. They are very vicious in their war tactics, and they are, for the most part, evil. But I believe they are not evil just for the sake of it. They are evil because they are forsaken. Ever since they broke free from the Scourge, the Forsaken have been reviled and oppressed by the living, mainly by the Scarlets and the Alliance, simply for being undead. Years of mistreatment has hardened their shattered souls, and they now feel "its us, or them."

Would you consider leaving it as "... Drek'Thar, who despises the Forsaken's campaign." Leave cruel out of it. I was content to leave "... attack on Taurajo, which resulted in a massacre." to "... attack on Taurajo, which resulted in many civilian casualties.". I think we can find a way to comprimise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by on 19:58, 1 April 2011.


 * I could agree to that. I knew we could work something out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by on 22:00, 4 April 2011.

Opinion
Would love to hear you opinion on Forum:Abuse of Template:Npc on links about this topic. 21:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)