Category talk:Game terms

next 200 links
The links (next 200) that appear at the top/bottom of this list do not appear to work. Would someone check the functionality of those links please?
 * --Emit 2:14 PM EST 30 Nov 2006

Everything past C has vanished, even using the Alphabet list up top. Please fix!Thewindywhite85 17:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm experiencing this problem too, and it occurs in both Internet Explorer (older version) and Firefox (latest version). Someone should really look into it as this is a major, significant portion of the wiki. --Telandir 23:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm having the same problem, this is a big one too. The game terms section is a HUGE chunk of information, and now 90 percent of it is gone. I have also tried with IE and Firefox. Please fix this ASAP. --Dragnknite 10:42, 08 January 2008 (EST)
 * For the moment, all you need to do is to be logged in while viewing this category to access the others. The problem has been reported already to the server guys. --Sky (t | c | w ) 15:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thank you! That helped a bunch. --Dragnknite 10:47, 08 January 2008 (EST)

Categories in redirects don't work
Despite the good intentions of some folks, adding categories such as or  to pages that are redirects ( #REDIRECT  something  ) doesn't add that page to the category. So, I may go about undoing some redirects in order to get them to show up in the category.
 * --Fandyllic 3:57 PM PST 2 November 2005


 * The category link works fine, as long as it is on the same editing line (perhaps not the same display line) as the redirect line. The software removes all lines below the first one in the case of a redirect. Schmidt talk 00:01, 7 Nov 2005 (EST)

Ingredients category
I've pulled the Profession Ingredients into a subcategory, because as I started to add them in, the number of additional entries woudl be pretty silly. If anyone has a problem with this, leave a note here or in my talk. Thanks :)

Kinak 05:00, 3 Mar 2005 (EST)

Glossary terms in other pages
If you want to add a term to the glossary, and that term is defined within another page, then you can't just add that sub-section to the glossary. You'd have to create a separate page just for that term. You could then provide a link to the other page, or change the original page to reference your new page's definition.

Sadly, redirects to anchors don't (and won't ) work due to technical reasons

--Goldark

Term "FTW"
I add this comment here because I read this is the way to get a new term explained in the glossary.

On my server lot of people use "FTW" as a generic indication of something good. Say "rogues ftw" or "flask of petrification ftw". Is this universal or only on this server? I've asked and people who use it can't explain what it means.

Only thing I come up with is "wtf" reversed :)

--hphuhtin

This is used at all servers, and as you said, it's used to indicate something good. My thought is that it means "For the world". That would make sense, right? :).

--Arandim

"FTW" means For The Win, usualy said after a unique event in which a particular item/class doing better than expected. For example: A group pulls too many mobs and everyone but a Paladin and a Rogue die. The Paladin and Rogue then go on to kill 3 mobs by themselves. This would be an appropriate time to say "Rogue FTW" or "Paladin FTW" or "Lay on Hands FTW"

--Iric

See FTW. Schmidt 00:15, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)

Addendum: FTW has a polar opposite, or "FTL" meaning For the Lose/Loss.

I believe the source for the phrase "For the win" is from a US gameshow, "Hollywood Squares". A common example of it's use would be, "Circle gets the square, for the win."

Technotaoist

remove subcategories?
Most of the Subcategories (imo) dont fit into the Game Terms Category. Maybe Game terms should be removed from most (all) of them. --Kramm 14:38, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)


 * I agree. Game Terms should be a sort of Glossary category, providing definitive articles that provide resourceful information. --Anticrash 14:51, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)

Distinction between official terms and slang?
I'm seeing a big divide on this category. Right now it contains several very official terms, such as Iron, Anti-Venom, Bank, as well as several slang terms Proc, Pull, Sheeping, Loot Ninja. At the very least, do you think we should create a subcategory for slang terms that are used commonly by players, but are not official terms in the game or the game's documentation? --Bendyr 15:21, 17 Jan 2006 (EST)
 * I think some criteria would definitely be useful. Official terms, as well as lore terms in particular, I don't think belong here, otherwise the category would cover the entire wiki.--Aeleas 21:25, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Ok, well I'm thinking that terms like "Iron" and "Bank" are not really game terms at all. We should narrow down the category to actual things that could be considered terminology, such as "talent" and "Area of Effect", and then move all non-official terms such as "proc" and "pull" to a subcategory for player-defined slang.  Any objections? --Bendyr 11:55, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * The distinction between terms in the official documentation is a good idea, but "Game Terms" does not mean Official game terms. The use of Game Terms as a category was sort of inherited and generally means any terms used in the game (official or not). I created the Glossary for non-game, non-Warcraft related terms that might come up when talking about various things.
 * So, in summary, its one big pot. Maybe someone can start adding things to a Blizzard Terms category, since Blizzard really means Official in the Wowpedia universe. Maybe a MMOG Terms category for the various game-slang, but that seems like too much work for little payoff.
 * --Fandyllic 6:15 PM PST 17 Feb 2006

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 * They work fine. --Pcj (T&bull;C) 17:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Term confusion
There's a few terms I've never quite understood, but I've never asked anyone in-game or on the WoW forums for fear of being branded a n00b, so I'll ask here. What do the terms GG, roll (not referring to group loot-style), and re-roll mean? These are the only ones I don't get, but I can't seem to find what they mean anywhere. Anyone? TheLightbringer 12:00, 10 February 2007 (EST)
 * I believe GG means "Good Game". For instance, if you are defeated by a person in a duel, you might good-naturedly respond "GG".  You might also say it if your group did well in an instance.  I would think the terms "roll" and "re-roll" might sometimes refer to the act of rolling a new character?  As in, "I rolled a Warlock after getting tired of playing a Mage."--Jcgooch 13:59, 14 March 2007 (EDT)


 * My experience suggests that "GG," which does often stand for "Good Game," is more often used sarcastically. Also, "Re-roll" is used to make a new character, but again in a very mean spirited way.  For example, having just lost a duel, ran an instance and wiped, lost in a PvP Battleground, etc., someone might say "GG re-roll" meaning, "You aren't any good, you might as well start over."  This phrase will also probably include the words "pwn" and "n00b" in there somewhere.--Thorell 14:53, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

All of the references to GG are correct, however it could also mean "Good Going." The term "roll" in this usage is an homage to old table-top RPGs such as Dungeons and Dragons which require players to roll dice to determine starting stats of a character. For instance, to determine a character's starting strength, the player has to roll a d4 or 4-sided dice and add or subtract a modifier based on class.

Category:Epic Failz
Having just effected repair on the 1000+ articles contained in this category, I feel that  is a failure and due for some critical revision. The basis of my judgment is this: the definition of the category is so abused that it has lost all significance.

In review of the contents, I was given the impression that people thought of "game terms" in many ways, including:


 * an aspect of real life experience that is reproduced in games, e.g. Eat
 * vocabulary inherited from the Internet, on which games are played, e.g. LOL
 * vocabulary inherited from the RTS or MMORPG genres, e.g. Dragon kill points
 * a name or label given to a feature of a Blizzard game, e.g. Help Request
 * a type-setting statistic, which has meaning to game programming, e.g. Humanoid
 * a Blizzard-designed story element, unique to their universes, e.g. Arakkoa
 * some infamous event that likely never would have existed were it not for a Blizzard game, e.g. Leeroy
 * shorthand that players have developed for a specific game concept, e.g. Emperor Run
 * a concept that one must understand to excel as a player of a game, e.g. Aggro

The union of all these ideas, of course, is "Any term (word or phrase) related to a game (presumably produced by Blizzard) in any way". This union is what the category "game terms" currently embodies. And it's junk.

This is not to say that the category does not inform. If browsed, it will reveal real gems like Bluewall, Panzerkin, and Plainsrunning. However, these articles are more likely to be discovered in the context of another page than here.

Recommendations?
Sub-categorizing would be a good start at improving this lot. Any one of the bulleted points above brings much-needed structure to "game terms".

Terms that can be outsourced to the mother Wikis should be. Wiktionary will define all the Acronyms, and Wikipedia knows quite enough about internet lingo.

20:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I really think most of the terms should be on one page, e.g. "List of game terms". This would greatly simplify the whole idea. -- 20:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You raise some interesting points (you can tell I didn't read it! ;D); however, most of the acronyms, for example, are already redirect to their non-acronym name.


 * Anyway, I'd personally start with tearing down all the separate categories that are based on a description of the word (Ie, Category:Acronyms) and then resorting into two, possibly three categories: Category:Terminology (possibly Category:Game terminology), Category:Warcraft terminology, and Category:World of Warcraft terminology, each with an explicit definition of what goes into the category. In the first goes terminology which appears in both the others. In Warcraft terminology goes items which are used in the RTS, and in the last, items used in the MMO. From there, I would split the MMO cat if needed.


 * Also, to respond to pcj, we do have two pages for such: World of Warcraft terminology. But as above, some words aren't going to be covered by that. --Sky (t · c · w) 21:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Need an explanation of Glyphs
The list of terms needs an explanation of what a Glyph is. The main article about Glyphs provides a lot of information about how Gyphs work and info about specific glyphs but it doesn't define what a Glyph is. It also doesn't explicitly explain how one obtains glyphs. It would be nice if that were covered too.