User talk:Vorbis/Wood elf

Any suggestions, ideas or general jibber-jabber about the wood elves, put it here:

Paladin
I can't see from the lore presented here about the reasons for the departure from the blood elf faction, how that being a class whose powers are gained from a being the blood elves have captured, probably using demonic magic no less, could be justified. In other words, anyone who would take on the stolen powers of the naaru that the blood elves have captures, would not seem to be a candidate to break away from the blood elves, nor would it seem that the blood elves would allow that person access to the naaru powers in any case.

Also, it is unclear how an outlaw from the blood elves would obtain a blood elf mount, so some lore about that may be in order.

Also, you may want to add the 'please don't move' note to the top of this page as that is where people will be looking for it most likely.


 * Thanks for the reply, though like I said this is work in progress. Give me a bit of time and I'll make sure it's all included in the lore. Just for a quick brief here, the presense of the Paladin and the hawkstrider in wood elf society give me a bit more freedom of movement in planning for the Burning Crusade; it would be difficult to execute in-game if I didn't have mounts to give my people or one extra class to beef up the wood elf population with (though I may scrap the idea... warlocks are a no-no though). Here's some lore reasons...
 * Paladin - blood elves lost their affinity with the Holy Light by turning down a darker path and so had to regain power by stealing it from another entity ie. the naaru. The wood elves that served as high elf paladins in the Silver Hand never lost this bond and continue to use the Light to this day (I'm unsure whether I should keep the Light as the religion of the wood elves though... this needs debate). In-game wood elf Paladins wouldn't ride the Blood Knight mount for obvious reasons.
 * Hawkstrider - it's simple - hawkstriders are a type of creature commonly encountered in the land of Quel'Thalas. Why shouldn't the wood elves be able to tame them as easily as the blood elves?
 * Again, thanks for commenting so swiftly. ;) --Vorbis

There never was any high elf paladins in the silver hand, you might want to change it. -Rovdyr

Actually, there were a few ("high elves rarely become paladins" ). True, not many, but a few. Either way, paladins in the Tel'dorei forces are now non-existant. --

Druid
So, no Druids ? I would have thought.-- K )  (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2006 (EST)


 * Well, I intended them to be compatible with the blood elf class setup so I tried to shape the lore around class choices. Considering the fact that I no longer intend to do anything with them in-game (actually, anything else come to think of it...), I guess druidism would indeed be a logical choice. --


 * well if they will join the cenerios circle they might need too be a druid but thats your choice i guess --Airiph 23:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Ideas
Sweeet, what about shamanism? You could say the Tauren taught them shamanism when they allied to each other. Mr.X8 03:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Nah, I don't want to make them too similar to the Western Horde races. Also, I don't think shamanism suits them too well... --

Hmm what about holy striding? They're scout-like. Mr.X8 15:27, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It would certainly fit, but I'd rather the race info box was not packed with classes nor the roles of the wood elves given too much detail - I could easily add Scout, Melee Hunter, Sharpshooter and a multitude of others, but they fit fine under the general title of "Hunter" (or indeed, "Ranger"). --

What happened to mages and paladins? Mr.X8 20:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

And in the future, will the Wood Elves make ammends with the Night and High Elves? Personally, you know what, nevermind, you're the writer not me Mr.X8 21:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Mages and paladins don't really fit, they were just wedged in as an excuse for wood elf player paladins and mages. As for your second point... I really don't know. --

Hmmmm, ok what about runemasters? The Tauren were those. And personally I would like to hope maybe the Wood Elves would make emmends with the High Elvs and Night Elves, maybe they could even destroy the Blood Elves (or make them repent into Wood Elves) oh and what chest is Leon wearing? Mr.X8 01:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Mr.X8, I don't really want to add any more classes as of yet (but if you have other ideas, I'd love to hear them!).


 * In any case, Runemasters are entirely un-wood-elf-ish: "they merge brute strength with arcane magic" and "take down foes with toe-to-toe, all-out assaults, hammering them with tattooed fists and feet brimming with arcane power". The wood elves I have constructed, however, distrust arcane magic and prefer ranged combat and subterfuge to all-out assaults.
 * The eventuality of the wood elves making amends with the night elves and high elves is part of the spectrum we call "the future". Though it may work out like that, at this point in Warcraft time I have no plans to do so. First of all, they're in the Horde... nevertheless, I suppose they may be welcomed by the Cenarion Circle.
 * Leon is wearing the "Nordrassil" chestplate - it fits pretty well, I think. --

So you are going to carry this out to the end? Oh and what about stags? Those would be kinda cool to see as like mounts. Mr.X8 00:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to say, you have inspired me. You probably already know that since you're an administrator and all, but hey, thank you for all your help. Mr.X8


 * Yeah, I'm thinking of carrying on til I decide to stop. And... thank you very much. Though you should probably know I'm just a member, not a member of staff (I'm not entirely sure where people keep getting that idea from). I'm impressed by the volume of the stuff your imagination turns out, and to be honest it's very good quality. --

How about good apothecaries? They are connecting to nature and therfore would have a connection to herbalism wouldn't they? BobNamataki (talk) 22:12, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Leon
so whos that leon dude? u should make him --Airiph 22:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I gave up on all of this months ago. It's not very good material and I haven't got much of a direction.--

Would I be able to make a page on him? Mr.X8 00:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Technically, yes, as there is no copyright but Blizzard's when it comes to Warcraft. However, *I* would prefer it if you didn't as he is my character and I'd much like to keep him as I see him.
 * Edit: Oh, I may as well have a shot at fleshing him out if you want one.--

I only fixed spelling mistakes and made a page on him, I can delete the page if you want. Mr.X8 20:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, I'll stop editing Mr.X8 22:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. :)
 * You have, however, inspired me to go further with this. If you want to make suggestions, go ahead on this talk page. --

Oh and does Leon have any relatives? Like friends, a wife, parents, children? Mr.X8 01:13, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Leon's relatives? Um... I'll think about that. It's likely his parents are dead, and I'm not sure whether he's the right type to settle down just yet. ^^ --

Ah I see, you're going for a kind of Rexxarish type of person, like someone who has the "noble burden" of leading his people. Mr.X8 20:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I suppose so, yes. I was essentially thinking that a man who decides to give the blood elves the finger and flee Silvermoon in the middle of the night for an inhospitable, windy mountain range - then hide in a bush ...would not be the the well-adjusted type to start a family. --

Did Leon and the Wood Elves become Blood Elves, or were they always High Elves? Mr.X8 00:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

They made the transition to "blood elf" along with the rest of their kin when Kael returned from Dalaran; though as they fled from Quel'thalas before the blood elves started practicing dark magic, physically they differ little from the high elves. I should probably make up some lore to explain away the green eyes. --

There really no need to, the High Elves had green eyes in the past. It even says so on their pageMr.X8 14:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Enchantress
Do you have anything on the Enchantress yet? Mr.X8 20:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No, not much on the enchantress yet. She'll be the Tel'dorei Archdruid (of sorts) and spiritual leader - a calm, Galadriel-esque elf amongst the crazy rabble. --

Night elf concept art - fortress

 * In the front of the Warcraft III Manual there was an image of a night elf hill fortress. I'm interested in taking a look at it, but I've lost my manual... --

Classes
Beastmaster perhaps? 03:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Scout perhaps?To tell every one if someone is invading or something? 02:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Scout is a must... for nearly all races, especially elves =) 02:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Added in a spurt of creativity... -- 17:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice crest, it does a good job explaining what your race is all about.  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  20:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice race icons too! 20:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :D Sometimes I just like to play with photoshop; the crest is a night elf banner with a changed color scheme. The race icons are just an added touch. ^^ -- 23:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Ranger would make sense. Theoretically they could be Rogues. BobNamataki (talk) 22:10, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Orionastrasz
Did you delete him?  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  20:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I retconned him to being Horakastrasz, a lore character who actually fits the part of "red dragon druid" far better than I had originally planned. The Keeper alter-ego of "Orion" still exists, though with no story so far. -- 23:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah so Orion is just Horakastrasz disguised (Edited - Vorbis ;]). Good stuff though. On a different note, can the WMV Keepers hold weapons?  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  01:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

No, unfortunately not; though I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to superimpose one. -- 13:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Name
Where did Tel'Dorei come from? BobNamataki (talk) 22:41, November 21, 2009 (UTC)