Talk:Patch 4.0.1 (undocumented changes)

Cataclysm Event
The page currently lists the Cataclysm pre-launch event that was running on the PTR as a change. I think (though the realms aren't up yet so I don't know for sure) this won't be actually running on the live realm until Blizzard activates it at some point in the future, much like Operation: Gnomeregan and Zalazane's Fall. It would still be a patch change but probably warrants its own section for changes pertaining to this event with a note that it hasn't gone live yet. Dr. Cheis (talk) 08:18, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I certainly can't find any quest NPC's, and Blizzard have stated that it was a passive event for the time being. -Valana (talk) 00:01, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Changes to Cold Weather Flying
Just investigated with my priest (who was slogging it out on foot until I could get the 1000g for the tome); Cold Weather Flying is now 500g, and available at level 68. The heirloom tome is gone. --Joshmaul (talk) 09:13, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * There was talk/rumor about the Cold Weather Flying trainer following faction discounts, but I can't seem to find any proof on it. If true, I assume she would follow Kirin Tor's faction discounts. Even then, faction discounts don't dip past 20% and what you mentioned was 50%. Aside from that, if this was just a simple change for easier character leveling, at least it wasn't as bad as finding out the 90% decrease in dual spec training... -- 10:01, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Some bugs.
Not sure how many are doing this but when I got on (after the long patch waiting) I logged into my guy and was hearth back to dalaran. As I got there something strange happened. Before I left I was still had the fel orc look from doing the netherwing rep. But when I got back to "home" I still had the look. No matter what i did I couldn't get rid of it as there was no "buff" (which by the way there's now a buff icon for the fel orc look much like the one in stormpeak. Only way to get rid of it was to head back then leave the area without hearthing. Also of note. If you try to eat, heal, drink, or active some spell/ability. You'll mount up dispite not being mounted to begin with. The Alchemic Warrior of Travels (talk) 20:56, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Guild Reputation
On your characters reputation page there is a "Your Guild" Reputation bar (It displays the actual name of your guild where I typed "Your Guild"). I'm not sure if there is any way to increase reputation with it right now though because I saw it on my friends account and it was at 0; He's his guild leader so I assume it is there for now just waiting until reputation can be gained. -- D558 (talk) 18:31, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * They implemented the new guild UI, but none of the features (such as guild rep) can be used until 4.0.3. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:12, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Gold cap changed?
My vendor glyph char now have more than 220.000g, there are a new gold cap undocumented ?
 * I have yet to find anything official about it, but there are reports on several sites, including posts on Blizzard's forums unanswered by a blue, that the gold cap on both your character and guild bank is now 999,999g 99s 99c. The closest "proof" I could find is http://www.warcraftecon.net/?p=2966 but this is not from Blizzard and I also question that site's legitimacy. Also, next time you post on a talk page, please sign your post at the end with four tildes. -- 20:20, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

All Taunts no longer have miss chances?
I've tested Growl and Dark Command here, can anyone confirm this with Death Grip, Hand of Reckoning, Righteous Defense, and Taunt? --Raptor2213 (talk) 09:25, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Alliance leaders in Stormwind
So with all the alliance leaders in stormwind at the moment does that mean that if a horde For the Horde raid ran into Stormwind they would be facing all the leaders at once? Emmac727 (talk) 18:48, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm curious as well, but I haven't seen it attempted yet. Dr. Cheis (talk) 19:28, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWjdFYd3l-o Dr. Cheis (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Display bugs on this page
At the time of this writing, the two entries relating to Elementium are having some display issues. They don't appear as they do on the "edit" page, and the links don't show the correct text either. Dr. Cheis (talk) 17:42, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Working now, after edits by Neia Pique, although I think I wrote the same thing as Neia Pique, despite it not showing up as I wrote it. Dr. Cheis (talk) 06:59, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Mixing Documented and Undocumented Changes?
Some of these changes ARE documented and were pre-announced (e.g. reforging). Can someone confirm that the general rule is that if it is in the patch notes or a blue post (or just the former?), then it is documented? Can editors please review and check that they are on the appropriate page, please, bearing in mind that the idea is to enable readers to quickly find relevant information? Tequima (talk) 23:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Patch 4.0.1
 * Patch 4.0.1 (class changes)
 * I believe that even if it was a preannounced change, anything not in the official patch notes is considered to be undocumented. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Engineering Tinkers
I checked my Springy Arachnoweave tinker, and it still gives spellpower, just as the recipe still indicates. I can only assume that the Flexweave Underlay continues to give Agility as its recipe indicates. However, Nitro (boot) Boosts no longer indicates that it increases crit, and no longer seems to do so. I will strike-out the indication that the cloak tinkers have been changed. Have not verified if Nitro Boosts stack with other boot enhancements, or if the cloak tinkers do as well. Corwin MacGregor (talk) 09:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I went to redact the changes, and it suddenly occurred to me... I checked the stats on this after 4.0.1a came out. Perhaps this could be an undocumented patch change for that patch?  no way now of verifying if these stats were removed (intentionally or unintentionally) in patch 4.0.1 proper.  Can anyone verify that the changes were observed prior to patch 4.0.1a?  ( To be on the safe side, I will list the reversion of the cloak tinkers in Undocumented for 4.0.1a ) Corwin MacGregor (talk) 09:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)