Talk:Faceless one

Speculation...
Though this is speculation, what if the Faceless Ones are a race of creatures that were, like the Aqir race, altered from an original race before the Well of Eternity (or somewhere along those lines), and that they were around during the reign of the Titans, but were imprisoned with the Old Gods?

Actually, it would be interesting if the Faceless Ones came from another dimension, and either worshipped the Old Gods in their home dimension or became their slaves once arriving on Azeroth (this is also speculation).

Lord Halcyon (talk) 08:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Tentacles?
Ugh.. am I just crazy? I remember these things being nasty slime/tentacle things in the Frozen Throne.. not humanoid mindflayer-looking things. Of course I'm only running off memory, so I have no doubt that I'm totally wrong. I think I'll be playing through the entire Warcraft series later on so I can reaffirm my faulty memory. --Anticrash 12:05, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)


 * You're not wrong. The image sure does look like one of the Unbroken from WC3:TFT. Could they be the same thing? Never heard of the Faceless Ones.
 * --Fandyllic 1:33 PM PST 29 Dec 2005

take a look at
 * --LemonBaby


 * I've seen that link before LemonBaby, thats why I'm so confused. --Anticrash 00:09, 30 Dec 2005 (EST)


 * I replayed the campaign in the Frozen Throne and confirmed my suspicions. I had no recollection of the Faceless Ones being members of the Unbroken race. All I had recalled were the large tentacles, which I realize now are apparently appendages of the Forgotten One that emerge from cracks in the floor throughout the map. I don't know where I got slime from...


 * So I read somewhere that the Old God Cthun lies buried within the planet, and awaits his rebirth in Ahn'Qiraj. Since the Faceless/Forgotten One(s) were buried beneath Northrend, it makes sense that they are somehow connected to the Old Gods (who were imprisoned deep inside the earth by the Titans). Since the Faceless/Unbroken are buried with the Old Gods, its logical that they'll be making an appearance in one of the Ahn'Qiraj instances when the Hand and Mouth of C'thun show up. --Anticrash 10:05, 30 Dec 2005 (EST)


 * I think what you mean by "slime tentacle things" may be this (sorry, kinda hard to see):


 * Or this (at the bottom of the page):


 * --Gilmat

Silithus and The Faceless One
Do you remember in Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne, One of the Campaign with Maiev ? She enter the Tomb of Sargeras with Naisha. There is many flash about the story, etc etc. At the end, she meet Illidan in the last room, and there is a big monster... a big Mouth who spawn tentacle ! There was also Faceless one with that strange creature. If you check WoW Model viewer, there is some monster called "The Mouth of C'thun" and the "The Hand of C'thun". The hand of C'thun is a kind of Tentacle like in the Warcraft 3 Campaign with Maiev. I guess the Faceless one are like the Silithis... a Creature who mutated because of the influence of the Old Gods. --Shatiana 19:26, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

I never saw any tentacle things in WC3(except in the Arthas campaign), maybe you saw naga? --Potato1 (talk) 14:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Faceless and Unbroken
In the Undead missions, The Faceless Ones and the Unbroken were the same race, and were identical apart from skin color (Faceless Ones were a dark purple, Unbroken were almost pink) and size. as for the Old God connection- let's see what Blizzard comes up with! Faceless Ones in Ahn'Qiraj would definetly be an interesting plot twist.- Ragestorm, Head Bookkeeper

Servants of C'thun
"The Faceless Ones, we have come to find, were the servants of the Old God, C'thun."

What's the source for the above claim? I can't find anything verifying it.--Aeleas 12:58, 24 March 2006 (EST)


 * ''The Faceless Ones, we have come to find, may be the servants of the Old God, C'thun. How they came to be in Northrend is unknown.

If there's nothing concrete backing this, I think it would be best to remove it. There is a lot of speculation around the beings Arthas encountered and C'Thun or the other Old Gods, but until we have something concrete, I think it's best to keep speculation separate. --Aeleas 12:13, 6 April 2006 (EDT)

Arthas's Mission
I don't remember anything about maiev encountering them but I do remember Arthas and Anu'burak blundering into them along with dozens of tentacles. Shortly there after they first encountered the faceless ones. Is it just me or do these creatures REALLY make one think of H.P. Lovecraft. The simularities between C'Thun and Cthulhu (not many except the name and sleeping god persona) makes me think Blizz wants to believe the old gods (and C'Thun in particular) rule over the faceless ones.--Darkling235 20:21, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

Naxxramas
Is it just me or does this seem like a faceless one http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/imageviewer.html?/info/underdev/1p11/,images/,18,18,http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p11/roadtodamnation3.html

looks to me like some sort of fungal golem. Faceless Ones tend to look like they're made of tentacles, and so far we've only seen them with skins of blues and pinks. also, Faceless One eyes are triangles of solid color. And I don't think they're that large. Even so, lore-wise, why would Faceless or Unbroken be in Naxxramas? --Ragestorm 21:00, 28 April 2006 (EDT)

I'd have to assume Arthas has raised at least a few of them. With the Forgotten One beaten down at least temporarily I'd be surprised if he hadn't recruited some of them.--Darkling235 15:40, 30 April 2006 (EDT)

--Ragestorm 13:50, 1 May 2006 (EDT)
 * Naxxramas was in Lordaeron prior to Arthas encountering the Faceless Ones.
 * Faceless Ones might not be able to become undead
 * If Arthas bothered to reanimate them, that means he respected them enough to do so. There was no hint in the campaign that he was impressed enough to do so.
 * The Upper Kingdom, where most of the Faceless Ones lived, was cut off by the cavequake at the end of that chapter. The Inner Kingdom caved in prior to that, when the Forgotten One died.

Draenei
Is it only me, or do the features of the Faceless Ones remind you awfully much about the Draenei? They are blue, they are bipedal, they have the same "pig-feet", they have the facial tentacles, they seem to be about the same proportions as the (uncorrupted) Draenei. All those similarities lead me to ponder whether the Faceless Ones actually can be a corrupted state of Draenei, like the Lost Ones and the Broken. --Davaeorn 11:57, 11 May 2006 (EDT)

Ummm... I don't really see it- anyway, recall that the Faceless Ones were regarded as legends by the Nerubians, no young race themselves. This would mean that the Draenei would have had to A) have found Azeroth in the distant past and B) have landed their long enough to leave their descendants, but to have still fled to Draenor. While this could link the two, it is not likely because any world with the slightest trace of Draenei magic would have been Burned by the Legion- Kil'jaeden would not have allowed any Draenei to survive by any means. --Ragestorm 16:33, 11 May 2006 (EDT)

But then again, the Legion haven't been able to burn Azeroth as of yet, and seeing how few of those Faceless Ones we've seen in the Warcraft mythos, we can safely say that if any kind of migration of these creatures would have been minor to say the least - perhaps insignificant enough for the traces of magic to be cloaked by the likely much greater magical powers of a more potent and numerous civilization. Since we do not know when they appeared on Azeroth (still in the theory of them being originally Draenei), we cannot either pinpoint which that civilization would have been, but perhaps the Gurubashi Empire or even the highborne.

I still see striking physical resemblance :) --Davaeorn 05:05, 18 May 2006 (EDT)

On another note, they might even have been in their original forms upon arriving on Azeroth, and twisted later on as a result of their allegiance with the Silithid and C'thun. If this is the case, they can safely have escaped Kil'Jaedens wrath by being proteges of the former mentioned. Perhaps this was choosing the lesser evil. --Davaeorn 05:11, 18 May 2006 (EDT)

Or, they are not even Draenei, but Eredar. We do not know if the Legion and the Old God works towards a common goal, or have any kind of bond or alliance. If they do, exchange of forces can't really be ruled out. There can be hundreds of other possible scenarios as well. --Davaeorn 05:32, 18 May 2006 (EDT)

While I must disagree with you, I commend you heartily for actually posing theories instead of just saying, "well, look at them!" ;-P If the War of the Ancients books are canon, which they probably are, Krasus seems to be aware that the Old Gods and the Legion are not friends, if not directly at odds. The Old Gods aren't obsessed with the Burning of all worlds in the Nether. in terms of mental processes, the Eredar would be unlikly to take on any new forms that limit their magic, and the Draenei would probably consider joining with the darkness of the Old Gods an affront to the Light- though I'll admit that there's room for anything, as the lore is nearly nonexistent. --Ragestorm 07:12, 18 May 2006 (EDT)

There's no reason to assume that, should the faceless ones have connections to the Draenei, that they had to have come before the Nerubians. Anyway... The tentacles on the Eredar/Draenei look vestigial in nature, much like a human appendix. That along with the other physical similarities leads me to believe that there is a connection between the Faceless and the Eredar/Draenei. Besides that, the parallels between the title "Unbroken" and "The Broken" branch of the Draenei adds even more evidence to a connection. Just an observation, the Unbroken seemed subservient to the other Faceless during 7.3 in the campaign, showing up with one Faceless surrounded by 4 Unbroken and other such matchups. Another thing, I was recently reading the WotA series and I noticed a number of connections to the Old Gods: Azshara and the Highborne being transformed into Naga by the OG, Neltharion being corrupted... I just had a crazy thought, would it be possible for the Forgotten One to be a creation of Deathwing in the image of the Old Gods that corrupted him, with the Faceless Ones as his minions? The Faceless and Forgotten seem to have been revealed when Illidan split Northrend, even the king of Azjol-Nerub did not recognize them, calling them legends. It is known that Malygos resides in Northrend, is it possible that Deathwing was trying to finish what he started? Or perhaps he was only trying to create a new Old God, maybe even as a vessel for the other Old Gods to inhabit. God, speculation drives me mad. Perhaps in the next Expac.


 * First of all, sign your posts, please. The implication is that the Faceless predate the Nerubians by virtue of Anub'arak's reaction. The Neltharion connection does work, but again, we have the issue of time: as Azol-Nerub predates the War by centuries at the least, anything beneath Azol-Nerub would have to be older still (as you pointed out, Illidan inadvertently released them). As for the Unbroken, there's bee no evidence of them at all. --Ragestorm 13:12, 31 July 2006 (EDT)

I was just wondering about the timeline bit. What if the faceless ones / unbroken are descendands of the eredar, but of the original original ones. What if Kil'jaeden and Archimonde were not the first to experiment with portals? What if other eredar went to Azeroth before Sargeras found Argus (perhaps this portal activity was even the magic which attracted Sargeras in the first place). Perhaps they were just sucked into the portal and the next moment they found themselves on an entirely different planet, without civilization, perhaps they just made the wrong friends (C'thun, or another old god) in their quest for survival and over time they were turned into their current state. Or perhaps one of the primitive insectoid races (whichever one it was...) put them under ground, where they were morphed into faceless ones.

Obviously this is a lot of speculation...but it would be a possibility...and imo more likely than "the draenei using the exodar theory" --HEMA 18:13, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * My cheap 2¢? They look like a five-year-old's rendition of a Broken, as sculpted in plasticine.  And I wouldn't call that "blue."  Farseer Lolotea ● contrib 09:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that the Wrath models can safely put this theory to rest, at least in terms of visual biological evidence-- Ragestorm  (talk &middot; contr) 01:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Let's settle this
Once and for all: where does it say there is a connection between the Faceless Ones and the Old Gods?--Ragestorm 21:58, 20 December 2006 (EST)
 * I don't think it says this anywhere, but if the connection between the forgotten one and C'thun is true, the fact that the forgotten one controlled them makes it almost certain they are related to the old gods. ~Gamerxl


 * And where is the connection between the Forgotten and C'Thun confirmed? -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 22:55, 14 February 2007 (EST)

I don't know whether this is official, but Blizzard has a spotlight campagin on TFT A user made this and apparantly Blizzard thought it (and it's lore) was good. You play with various dwarves and fight faceless ones, who serve the old gods.

here's the link: http://www.battle.net/mod/mapvault_archive2.shtml

Been a while since I played it, think chapter 2 features some notes on the faceless ones, whereas the 3rd chapter really is about the faceless ones...

Note: there are various other custom campaigns for TFT, also set in Azeroth, which often feature (partially) incorrect lore and so far none of those have been a spotlight map...makes one wonder...

--HEMA 16:23, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Mod/Mapvaults are player submitted maps and mods, and player made descriptions, but don't represent Blizzard authorized lore.Baggins 16:17, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Baggins beat me to it. Just because Blizz liked the campain, doesn't mean it's in any way approval of the story. 16:19, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * I know the maps are player submitted...but I figured blizzard would only allow users to do so if they liked the map, and in this case if the lore is consistant... --HEMA 16:25, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Naw its more about liking the maps, not about necessarily about the lore. Many of the submitted maps have little or to no lore, or have silly stories that nothing to do with lore. But Blizzard would post up whatever background the authors had for the maps to explain the content of the files.Baggins 16:33, 21 March 2007 (EDT)


 * As for a list of maps Blizzard claims as their own maps rather than just being fan mods/maps see;Baggins 16:42, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Qiraj to Nerubian
This is of course speculation, but I think it bares mentioning. So far you have two races both of which came from the Aqir. You have the head of the Qiraj in C'thun, and a similiar powerful creature of the Nerubians in The Forgotten One. You have the main body of the Qiraj in the Silithid Tanks while you have the Nerubians as the main bulk of the Nerubian empire. I believe that The Faceless Ones are simply the Nerubian equivelant of the Silithid Gladiators.

As has been the trend in the other castes, you can see a distinct visual similarity between Gladiators and Faceless Ones. They both share the broad upper body that tappers down into a smaller set of legs, a set of dual pointed toes, and lastly both have a much larger right arm compared to their left. --Sylvania 22:31, 16 February 2007 (EST)

Forced Evolution by the Old gods
In Ahn'Qiraj there are two distinct races that are seen. The silithid and the the Qiraji. The qiraji are C'thuns favoured minions. Sentient and with a purpose. C'thun found the silithid thousands of years ago and forcefully evolved some of them into the Qiraji to serve as Overlords. Exaclty how they control the silithid isn't entirely clear, likely some form of mental domination power given to them by the Old god. The Qiraji however are not 'controlled' by C'thun. They serve the Old god willingly and carry out its bidding.

So from this the Old gods have demonstrated the ability to change nearby lifeforms into desired shapes/forms to serve whatever purpose. Not all of these creatures created are as servitors. Sometimes the Old gods will create entities to represent their disdain for mortal lifeforms in general. Ouro the sandworm for example is one such creature. A monstrous critter created as a mockery of life. The same could be said for Viscidius but there is little to no information to support this. Ouro is easily a match for C'thun in terms of power and in game difficulty, but is probably too stupid (Doesnt carry the sentience that the Qiraji do) to know any better.

The faceless ones of Azjol'nerub are likely the sentient servitors of the Old god buried there, much like the Qiraji are the servitors of C'Thun. However its possible the 'Forgotten one' that Arthas and Anub'arak defeated Is a montrosity created by the Old god as a mockery of life. Its resemblance to the Old god C'thun is hard to dismiss, but the odds of a weakened hero with a small band of minions defeating an Old god are slim to none. its' possible its existance is comparable to that of viscidius or Ouro in ahn'qiraj. A monstrosity based on local lifeforms, empowered and warped to the Nth degree. The Faceless ones bare a nasty tentacle like appearance and there were tentacles being spawned all throughout the deeper caverns of Azjol'nerub in wc3:tft. There may yet be other lifeforms deep beneath the old kingdoms of Azjol'nerub that have yet to be seen.

Of course it is just as likely the forgotten one is simply the Old god buried beneath the ruins and is in fact dead at the hands of Arthas and Anub'arak. If it was not the old god however, it leaves open the possibility of the Old god being added as a possible raid boss in future expansions. Ideally Azjol'nerub would be a massive (on a whole new scale) underground dungeon with 3 major hubs. The upper kingdoms, dominated by undead and lorded over by Anub'arak. The lower kingdoms, Controlled partially by the remaining free nerubians and dwarven forces. And lastly the deep caverns beneath the kingdoms, controlled by the faceless ones serving the Old god and further inhabited by horrors not yet seen in the warcraft universe. This would give blizzard room to play around with some new monster ideas at the very least. Thraks66 03:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Faceless Ones in WoW WotLK
will we be able to se Faceless Ones in WotLK?? 16thDay 23:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Unannounced so far, but given that we will certainly be visiting Azjol-Nerub a fair amount, I say the liklihood is extremely high. 23:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Pwnerpwner's Inference
Long ago, there were five Old Godss who ruled the world with their Elemental minions. When the Titans came to Azeroth, a horrific battle between the gods ensued, resulting in the death of many Titans and even two of the Old Gods themselves. They shackled the others deep beneath Azeroth's surface, one in what would become Tirisfal Glades, another beneath the center of the continent, and the last to the far north. Then, they created the Well of Eternity at the center of the continent they shaped into perfection: Kalimdor. However, one of the two left for dead didn't fully die. A group of massive insects emerged from the ether of the Well, and moved at once into the west. There, the Old God found them and gifted some, and the Aqir were born, insectoid to rule over the more primal Silithid. Extreme expansionistic and incredibly evil, they took over the lands of the west, causing trouble to the Trolls. Another great war was fought, resulting in the destruction of Azj'Aqir and the splitting of the Aqir race. When the race split, some fled south and some fled north. The ones in the south were once again enslaved by the Old God, who they named C'thun. But the ones in the north escaped such a fate, building the massive underground city of Azjol-Nerub and becoming the arachnoid Nerubians. The Nerubians had 20,000 years to perfect their technological skills and arcane abilities and stood unchallenged in both. Though when the Night Elves came and grew superior in their magical skills, the scholarly Nerubians were still considered by far the most advanced race on Azeroth until the coming of the Lich King... In the chaotic battle between the powerful Nerubians and Scourge, the city was ultimately collapsed, killing many of both. However, their corpses were only reanimated as Crypt Fiends, and, in the case of the Nerubians' high lawmaker Spiderlord caste, Crypt Lords. Even after that, Illidan used a spell from Dalaran to try and destroy Icecrown Citadel, but was stopped. However, these quakes opened up tunnels in the areas still held by the Nerubians in Azjol-Nerub... And out came the Faceless Ones, monstrosities from the Old Gods! Looking far back into the command structure of the Faceless Ones, you'd find that they're spawned and controlled by a group of Old God-like deities called the Forgotten Ones.  But farther back, there exists the Old God chained in the north, whom the Forgotten Ones spawned from... Soon, the Nerubians and "mysterious force" made a truce. The Nerubians would provide the Old God with much needed magic skills, whereas it would provide them with the brute force and protection of the Faceless Ones. They came to call this Old God the Nameless One, as it did not have a name. Now, the alliance between the two is powerful enough to topple even the Scourge... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Trolls
I saw that someone speculated that these might be related to the draenei, but i think that trolls might be more accurate, they share some similarities: Both have two toes, three fingers and share at least some facial similarities. As we dont know where trolls came from (assuming elves evolved from trolls and not the opposite way), maybe trolls evolved from the faceless? Titan cleansing mayby? Trolls have always had a minor relation to old gods, so why not? --Treetar (talk) 15:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, blizz is just lazy. i mean, half ogres and uncorrupted orcs are identical, face it Noobi666 (talk) 14:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Classes
Should fighter added to classes because all faceless in wow except one are melee mobs without necromantic powers. Noobi666 (talk) 07:46, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * As a rule we try to avoid classes based on speculation of ingame abilities.Baggins (talk) 08:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

They can be necromancers??  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  16:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It seems that way. Your point is what?-- 20:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

That seems quite odd, almost, suspicious.  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  22:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not all undead and/or necromancers are affiliated with the lich king, x8. Recall that Necrolytes were tottering around perfectly randomly prior to his creation. -- Ragestorm  (talk &middot; contr) 02:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Forgotten Ones
Aren't the "faceless ones" in the Old Kingdom instance actually called forgotten ones? Should we mention that in the article? Granted I'm not sure what that means but it seems relevant somehow. --Darkling235 03:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Fanart



 * now THAT is lovecraft.. about the article, it really looks clear that they are servants of yogg-saron, called forgotten ones by the nerubians, the nerubians respect them for their power, but this respect comes with fear. although one question is unanswered. the ulduar raid will probably be about some1 trying to free yogg-saron and we can't let taht happen or we would have some big problem worst than arthas himself. this is just expeculation but if it's true, what will be up to the faceless ones on the northern corner of northrends? probably some new instance featuring the forgotten ones from wc3, who knows... Azahel (talk) 11:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Faceless General
This recently leaked picture shows what appears to be an Ulduar boss, a "Faceless General". Looks very Cthuloid.  Xavius, the Satyr Lord  15:56, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This would be a good time to remind everyone about WoWWiki's DNP policy on datamined info. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Put the puzzle together
Well, now that WC3 Frozen Throne and WotLK are both out, I think it's about time to put the puzzle together.

From what Ive gathered, Faceless ones and Forgotten ones are servants of the Old Gods, before the other races.

C'thun Is a Forgotten one, and Yogg-Saron resembles them, but he also has forgotten ones with him.

C'thun Is an old God. So is Yogg-Saron. They both have some sort of thing going with the Forgotten Ones.

Also I've noticed AHN'kahet. AHN'qiraj. Both have forgotten ones..? I think the word AHN and ULD have something to do with it all. I'd like someone to add to this widley Discussed topic.

I just think that blizzard needs to put the lore together, Im through with doing it myself. Darkwiz787 (talk) 00:10, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I do not know about the "before" part. C'thun looks like a Forgotten one... The AHN thing may be a connection, but AQ does not have anything that is called a Forgotten one.-- 00:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The connection between the names Ahn'Kahet and Ahn'Qiraj is from the Silithid Empire that was splited by the Trolls, but not from the forgotten ones (beside AQ does not have any forgotten one any where in its halls)
 * Loremaster A&#39;noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk) 01:06, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe The Forgotten One from WC3 was just a generic model. For now, we know that the faceless ones are servants/slaves of Yogg-Saron, but the question is, WHAT is The Forgotten One? Pudim17 (talk - contr) 12:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * After reading from here and there, I see no one mentioned something odd in all this whole Forgotten Ones/Faceless Ones/Old Gods thread. Adding my two cardboard cents for the ones who enjoys (like me) to read the theories and speculations from everyone. From what it is told to Brann Bronzebeard at the Tribunal_of_Ages, the Titans seemed to came into a consensus about Azeroth being too far "infested" by these "tumors" (Old Gods) that killing them/it would mean the total destruction of the world, so, they resorted to neutralize them and "pray" no silly player would get to them and destroy them (oops). Apparently the "Old Gods" where already in this planet (with the elementals roaming) before the Titans appeared and decided to "purge" it and plant their own "vision" of Life. So far, it seems that this "Forgotten One" you ask about is just a "body". See, we have the eyes/stomach (C'thun) and then we have the mouths/brain (Yogg'Saron - uhm, now that's a messed up anatomy but there is no biological treatise about Cosmical Horrors out there I'm afraid). Probably they are independent the one of the another (5 Old Gods) but perhaps they are the same from a whole (a shattered body sharing the same mind, thus, the same purposes, but worshiped independently). So, what are the reasons behind the Pantheon by visiting worlds and seed/purge them with their own creations? It is told that these Old Gods can turn the stone and metals into "flesh" for "better assimilation". Perhaps these Old Gods/parasites are trying to turn this floating stone in the middle of the cosmos into just a giant "corpse world" and perhaps this is how they manage to parasite other worlds, after reaching this stage on which all the planet is consumed/assimilated and then jump into another innocent stone with life and suck all what it gambols over its surface. I do believe Old Gods cares about their servants/slaves/whatever as little as mere entrants, inducing them to facilitate their spread all over the world with worship or contaminating other living beings. As someone said, Faceless ones perhaps are plain old races (evolved outside Titan intervention) and warped to fit the services of their new lords (we know that they are able to transform almost anything into everything, races into other races like the Naga, evolving primitive insects into more sentient creatures like the Qiraji, and now the stone and metals into flesh), or perhaps they are just spawns from themselves from a previous era, like seedlings or walking spores of some sort, able to grow to hulking sizes. This sounds a little like the Zerg as they were also created to fit into worlds, assimilate DNA in order to create the perfect "servants" for the Overmind and then jump to other worlds when the previous world was already consumed, restarting the cycle in other planet and aiming to create a "perfect being" (and if the Titans are like the Xel'Naga at some extend, perhaps the Old Gods were created from a failed creation made by the same Pantheon which seems also aiming to create the perfect races or the ideal beings to populate the universe, who knows - and perhaps Sargeras objective is not to destroy "all" the worlds in the entire universe but just the ones "tainted" by the creations of the Pantheon; remember that the Well of Eternity was like a beacon for him to find Azeroth, and who knows how many times the Pantheon resorted to the same "Neutralization Protocol" as they did in Azeroth, basically pinpointing all the worlds infected by the Pantheon's fault and explaining why Sargeras saw "all of sudden" why the Pantheon's purposes about seeding the worlds were a fail... /reading_too_much_into_it). Basically, it seems like the Pantheon is trying to prevent either the spread of these parasites, or, preventing the apparition of massive fleshy Unicrons trying to predate and turn the already dull Twisting Nether into a more dullest rotting universe, but anyway, that is not the point of the wall of text. The point was to say that perhaps the "Forgotten One" is just a generic name for an entity which was deemed to be forgotten either due to Nerubian taboo or because they were asked to forgot about it, so much that it ended appearing in legends of their people, and appearing with other names in other races' folklore like Old Gods and stuff. Now, I have readed about Blizzard's supposed "plans" to explore other worlds in the same solar system and/or beyond, and we already know that Old Gods are not strangers to the Naaru, who also are worried about the spreading of these parasites (though the Naaru's connection with the Pantheon is terribly blurry, at least in the aspect of who was the first to travel worlds and help random beings). If pursuing the Burning Legion is a primary to secondary quest, perhaps we will meet more of the Old Gods in the future. Also, this about the Cataclysm© next XP rumours... wouldn't be cataclysmic to try to kill all the Old Gods in Azeroth (not to say that the copy backup of Azeroth is being also corrupted by another supposed Old God and that we are being forced to kill all the Aspects little by little like mere pawns of these necropho/ytic symbiotes?) /sigh just hope Yogg'Saron and Co. Gods aren't something like a rippoff of Ubbo-Shatla, because this game would evolve from epic fantasy to sci-fi dark horror (if it haven't already...). --[[Image:IconSmall_ForestTroll_Male.gif‎ ]] Ravenore, the Necroshadowmancer 11:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If C'thun is a Forgotten One, but an Old God too like you said, how can Forgotten Ones be creatures that are servants of the Old Gods? Rolandius [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] ( talk -  contr ) 13:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh and there is no such thing as the "Silithid Empire". You are close though. Rolandius [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] ( talk -  contr ) 13:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure he meant the Aqir Empire, which was the precursor to the Nerubians and Qiraji. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Absolutely!
 * Loremaster A&#39;noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I did mean he LOOKS like a forgotten one, but Im saying hes an old god- like yogg-saron, and looks like yougg-sarons minions. Darkwiz787 (talk) 22:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh you meant he "looks" like a forgotten one. Okay. Rolandius [[Image:Paladin.gif|25px]] ( talk -  contr ) 03:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Language Speculation
Just my random conclusions and guesses on the language of the Faceless Ones.

Ywaq: They. It may be a sort of "Holy They" referring only to certain individuals.

Ma: To be or to act. A positive in reference to a state.

q: A negative, adding it to a word gives the opposite meaning. So Maq would be "Do not" or "are not".

oou: Die. As "Fall" is used in another line, this may refer to death in general, whereas the other is to be killed through violence.

ssaggh: Live

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=Faceless Ones details= A few things form other articles (without direct confirmed sources) that could also go here. One is that on Yogg-Saron's page, it states with a few noticeable details that their blood is composed of liquid saronite. Since saronite is linked to Yogg-Saron, it may give it complete control over them compared to manipulation.

Another is the Faceless One's Withered Brain, implying they may be extremely hard to kill or that their brain can function a while after their body stops functioning (also may show they don't need nutrients to live). As they're known to incite insanity, they could be dangerous to living beings after death (how the 'group of adventurers' never fall prey to this is beyond me). They, like nerubians, also seem to be immune to plagues and mind control and etc. And their extreme resilience to dying (and their blood may solidify after death, forming metal) may contribute to why there isn't any actual undead ones, despite Arthas directly killing them. Yogg-Saron's claim that death is eternal may also apply even moreso to the Faceless Ones. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.