User talk:Ohdoulton

Personal Attacks
How is what you are removing considered a personal attack? 04:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

The reason is simple. The author of the change is engaging in a act of degrading the accomplishments of a guild of which I am a member. Accrodingly that is a personal attack not only on me but on all the members of that guild. Ohdoulton


 * Ah, I see what hes doing, trying to put you in another category for those that starting doing the place after 2.4. ok then. 05:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no reason for doing that. Anyone with eyes can see what guilds have Cleared TK and SSC. The boss killed in MH is the same boss that was there before 2.4. If anyone cares that some guilds have entered MH or BT without the attunment that is not necessary, they can scroll down and see if the attunment bosses have been killed or not. Personally it is more of an accomplishment to kill MH and BT bosses without all the gear that you can get from clearing SSC and KT. The past attunments for SSC and TK were undone by Blizzard, yet you seen no "special" notations about what what guilds entered those instances without those attunments after they were done away with. Why do so now? Simply scroll down and see what the guild has cleared. Ohdoulton

This page was set up and structured around progression based on difficulty of bosses. The reason the 2.4 is because Rage winter is not a hard fight compared to Vashj/Kael. I stated over and over that once Kael/Vashj where killed I would gladly place them in the non 2.4 section. I see no reason NOT to have the 2.4 section. Being as it is not possible to kill rage before kael prior to 2.4.

This is in no way a personal attack. If you are taking it that way I am sorry. This is only in place because of the stated above.

And the progression is based on the way Blizzard set it up. Since attunment is not necessary that is the progression. The boss that was killed by the pre-attunment guilds is the same boss killed by the post attunment guilds. If anyone is interested in who cleared what they can see that on the page. There is no reason to make the 2.4 note and as such it will be deleted each time it appears.


 * You are right there is no difference in the boss on the path of getting there. So if you look at it that way yes the boss is different because guilds would not have been able to down him had they NOT killed kael.  So in a way yes blizzard did nerf this boss.

If you truly though your line of thinking was correct you would have edited the page to reflect what guilds did what bosses after each patch. Kael has been nerfed and some of the guilds showing him downed did that after that nerf, but yet you dont care about that. You only want to degrade guilds at this point. One can only wonder why. Be ture to your line of thinking and you might convince me. Were are the notes about guilds that entered TK and SSC without attunement for those? There is not note because you are on some sort of mission here to discredit the accomplishments of guilds that enter BT and MH without attunment. Your stand does not hold water unless you make similar notations on all guilds for all boss kills reflecting each and every patch. You have not done that. You have support for your position until you take that step and until you do, I will do what I can to keep the page accurate as it always has been.

Three-revert rule
Please be warned that you are violating the three revert rule. Any further reverts you make today will result in your temporary blocking from WoWWiki. -- k _d3 06:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)