Template talk:Nature and Divine

The ones removed from the template aren't referred to as eternals. Ancients are already covered on their own article. That's all. -- 23:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to register all variations of every sapient race and it's not Eternals, it's NATURE and eternals, It was named that way for that specific problem--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Forgotten ones aren't eternals. The Guardian of Ancient kings isn't an eternal. Spirit Healers aren't eternals. -- 23:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I need to list them and i already found a way, Nature, Divine and Eternals is that enough for you?--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I also need to list every ancient because it's the purpose of these templates--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No, that's what categories are for. -- 23:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No this is a template of sapient creatures that is connected to the main sapient races template, in fact this template was made so we could divide races without getting messy or using incredibly small letters--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe by "we" (in this case) you mean "you," and templates are for ease of navigation, not subtly declaring masses of minute theories as fact.-- 00:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Give me an example i used in this template? example of that?so that i can see the problem with the previous template and remove it--Ashbear160 (talk) 00:08, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ancients, treants, elementals, angels, naaru are never stated to be eternal and neither bogbeasts are, they are here because this is not eternal exclusivity template, it's part of a larger template--Ashbear160 (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

What's going to be used, then? There's this list, and then the section at Species. Make up your mind on which template to use. -- 07:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I requested this template to be a sub-template of that one so i could register subspecies(because PCJ had a problem with sub-species bloating the template), this is technically supposed to be a template called "Sapient Other", it's just called Nature and Eternals, because other looks like a lazy job.
 * In fact the name of the article was named in a spurt of the moment and it's not relevant to the article purpose.--Ashbear160 (talk) 09:44, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Ancients
I need to add the sub-race of ancients since gourra has a problem with this, but this is the function of the Sub-template so it needs to be listed anyway: Ancient (Lore· Arcane· War· Wind· Wonder· Protector· Corrupted· Treant· Tree of Life) --Ashbear160 (talk) 01:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Since nobody commented i'm going to add it--Ashbear160 (talk) 15:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Renaming the Template
The template was supposed to be about every other sapient being that cannot be fit on the other sapient templates, and this is clearly not a template about "Eternals" i'm still trying to find the correct name(which is hard), anyway here are my suggestions:
 * Sapient Other: Seems awkward but probably the best solution
 * Sapient Spirits: Elementals are nature spirits so could ancients and bog beasts, and angels, naarus could be considered divine spirits.
 * It's very hard to choose, so any suggestions would be nice--Ashbear160 (talk) 16:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Lon-ami suggested Template:Sapient divine races, i think this is the best solution--Ashbear160 (talk) 17:39, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Not everything needs a template, you know. I would argue that no template at all is better than a "miscellaneous other" template. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 19:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well this one is supposed to be a sub-template for listing sapient species, if there wasn't this template there would be a lack of template that lists races and subraces of the last category of the sapient species Template--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:26, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's the idea User:Ashbear160/Template:Divine with some fixing--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * We could also fuse the demon template with this one and call it the Template:Sapient magical beings, I'll try to make a example--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * See here i just need feedback User:Ashbear160/Template:Sapient Magic--Ashbear160 (talk) 20:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)