Talk:Kul Tiras

The this entire article is from a website that is not an official Blizzard site and is therefore not reliable. Some facts are basic and have been established in the general continutity of the series but the specific references to the current state of Kul Tiras are questionable at best. -A. Love


 * They may be questionable, but "canon that is somewhat questionable" (read: Metzen worked on and approved all RPG books) is better than nothing. Until we have reason to suspect it is false, I don't see why we should believe that it is. --Pure.Wasted 15:33, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Destruction of Kul Tiras
In the Orcish campaign of Warcraft II's expansion, the orcs need to get an artifact from Alterac. In order to secure passage over the seas they invade Kul Tiras. Now, this may not have actually happened, because only the Alliance campaign is completely true, but the only artifact they didn't have in the end of the Alliance campaign was the Eye of Dalaran, indicating that they got the artifact from Alterac. So, was Kul Tiras raised to the ground as logic would have us believe? Mannerheim

"the Alliance campaign is completely true"


 * Actually the true history picks and chooses elements from both the Horde and Alliance campaigns. Not everything that happened in Alliance campaign has happened in current history, and vice versa (Though I believe most events from both campaigns have been refrenced in later sources in some way, except the endings). As for the attacks on Kul Tiras? I'll have to look into that.Baggins 22:32, 10 December 2006 (EST)


 * Um, I think everything in the Alliance campaign is true, give me an example. Mannerheim

Well Kul Tiras wasn't completely destroyed, but the collection of the three artifacts is defenitely true. There are refrences to it in other sources. I've gone over the missions for both campaigns and for the most part they both seem to interweave into each other, except for the last level or two of the final chapters of both sides.Baggins 18:00, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Who actually Destryed Tiraguard keep? because I have seen the naga raid a Kul tiras town in warcraft 3, was that tiraguard keep? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Please sign your posts, and no Tiragarde keep was destroyed by Thrall and Rexxar, it was the big kul'tiras castle towards the end of the campaign.--Gurluas (talk) 14:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Shouldnt Kul Tiras be kicking hordes ass...Since Lieutenant Alverold is coming with his fleet. Alterac Parenolde

Kul Tiras in future expansions.
Wasn't sure the appropriate place for this, so I thought i'd put it here and hope for a response. I had a chance to speak with Chris Metzen after the Lore and Quests panel at Blizzcon2007, and I asked about whether any of the missing kingdoms like Kul Tiras or Gilneas would come into play with the WotLK expansions, especially since he said they wanted to get back to the basic "Humans vs. Orcs" concept of Warcraft, and, in my opinion, there's not alot of humans out there that hate orcs more than those from Kul Tiras. He said that there currently weren't any plans to introduce them in the WotLK, but that they do have plans for them, Kul Tiras and, it seemed to me more so, Gilneas. So not this time, but maybe next I guess. Xier 12:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

GRAND ANDMIRAL DAILEN PROUDMOORE, not lord admiral dailen proudmoore!

Both are correct. I believe Grand Admiral however refers to his position in the chain of command of the alliance in the second war, while Lord Admiral is a title for the ruler of Kul Tiras. Making the second, Lord Admiral, more prevelent to the character.Warthok 08:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Just saw this has already been discussed on your talk page. I'm reverting the changes.Warthok 08:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you make A warrior look exactly like a kul tiras marine? can you get all the green-trimed plate? I made the tabard and I have the helm. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Alright this has been explained once already. His title as leader of Kul Tiras is Lord Admiral. Lord Admiral is the equivilent of king for Kul Tiras. Grand Admiral refers to his position in the Alliance of Lordaeron. The specific part of the article is refering to his rule over Kul Tiras thus why Lord is appropriate instead of Grand. Furthermore that section is taken directly from the Warcraft 2 manaual, word for word, in which he is called Lord Admiral.Warthok 07:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Why Kul Tiras left the Alliance during Beyond the Dark Portal?
In the narration of the eight mission of Beyond the Dark Portal it is told the following: "We have also learned that Admiral Proudmoore is no longer a member of the Alliance and does not have the support of their armies." But in the Warcraft III manual it is told that Admiral Proudmoore still serves the Alliance, so that means that they left the Alliance and then rejoined after being almost defeated by the Horde?

Militarism
How do they keep putting together such enormous fleets if their population is just 10,000? Perhaps they practice impressment? At any rate, they would have to maintain a fairly militarized society, even for WoW, to support such a massive navy. Lckyluke372 (talk) 14:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Why was Kul Tiras left out of Cataclysm?
I think we all rejoiced when we heard that Blizz not only remembered Gilneas now, but is making it a major factor in this upcoming expansion... but why is Kul Tiras not a part of this? It would seem odd, especially now that we can fly around the areas, that Kul Tiras will not be a part of the world at all. Especially since every part of Azeroth was hit with chasms and crags of lava. It's also in the Tol Barad and Gilneas area. Did it sink for some reason? Did Blizz forget about this area like they did with Gilneas a few years back? Kind of odd, considering Jaina, a major character in WoW lore even to this day, is from there, but there seems to be no news of her old home. Mykael Mourningsun (talk) 05:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if it did sink, but I'm not inclined to think so. Perhaps its being saved for a patch. Drakolord7 (talk) 05:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It's possible it just is being saved for a future expansion. I am looking at Cataclysm as part 1 of 2 expansions with Azshara being the primary antagonist for levels 85-90 in the next expansion. That would be a perfect time for the remaining areas like Kul Tiras and Kezan to be added. Leviathon (talk) 06:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't be shocked at the Part 1 of 2 possibility. And isn't Kezan being added? Last I read, Goblin players start out on Kezan and eventually wind up on the Lost Isles. And also, aren't the Lost Isles the remains of Suramar? If so, then the Tomb of Sargeras should be there. These Isles are the same ones that Illidan visited in WC3, at least they have the same placing geographically. Mykael Mourningsun (talk) 09:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * We can't really trust the location of the Broken Isles as they were moved from WC2 to WC3 from Eastern Kingdoms to the Maelstrom. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 16:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

As Tol Barad was annexed into Kul Tiras after the second war, we will, in effect, be able to visit Kul Tirian territory, if not the two main islands of the nation. I hope there are references to its status as Kul Tirian in the expansion. Also, did any of the people of that kingdom survive the Orcish invasion? I know that they were already in tough times before the war (what with being conquered by Stromgarde and all) but are there still natives now? gadget (talk) 05:45, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Lore-wise, I'll hazard a guess here. Barring a major plot hole, if Kul Tiras hasn't been destroyed or walled off, then the only other possibilities I can think of are that:
 * Kul Tiras was left as a ghost town after the migration to Theramore.
 * Lady Jaina & the Dalaran wizards cast an invisibility aura on Kul Tiras, just as pre-WotLK Dalaran had a protective shell over it. Given enough arcane energy, it may not be a far-fetched proposition. Deepred (talk) 04:28, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Kul Tiras
In Warcraft II it's pronounced 'Kool Tihr-ahs', but I've always thought of it as 'Kuhl Tihr-ahs' for some reason. The narrator of the human campaign is known to have mispronounced the name 'Quel'Thalas', but Blizzard felt this sounded better and kept it. But it would perhaps be an oddity amongst Warcraft names that it's pronounced differently than its spelled, especially since it hasn't been said in decades. So... does anyone have any information as to how Blizzard pronounces Kul Tiras these days? Perhaps from a Blizzcon panel? Weasel (talk) 14:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)