Talk:History of the Horde

Merge candidate
We have two articles on the pre-Thrall Horde, one here and one at Dark Horde. I don't know that either term is actually an official term, in which case perhaps the best article name would be Horde followed by a distinguisher, such as Horde (pre-Thrall).--Aeleas 20:42, 15 October 2006 (EDT)


 * Dark Horde has undergone substantial revisions, such that there is no duplication between the articles. I've recommended on that talk page that Dark Horde and Old Horde be renamed, so that their article names aren't mistaken for canon terms.--Aeleas 00:51, 26 November 2006 (EST)

Races
Besides orcs, trolls, Black dragons, and goblins, were there any other races in the Old Horde. Mr.X8 00:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the list of races in the Old Horde:

'Red' Dragons 'Forest' Trolls Goblins Orcs And maybe UD (but only the UD that the Warlocks create). Saimdusan 05:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I dont get it
How could there be death knights and Ogre-mages before the Old Horde left for Azeroth since there was no Altar of Storms? Mr.X8 00:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

There definatly weren't Death Knights, but there where Ogre Magi (since they existed in Ogre communities before the Second War, just not in the Horde). Saimdusan 05:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Mr.X8 22:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

expanding this article
I'm going extend this article and add to the following history to make it closer to the form, established by Horde Player's Guide, in as much that the Horde as an entity is considered the organization throughout the years, although it has had organizational and law changes throughout the years.Baggins 18:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Old Horde
The term "old Horde" should not be used in most articles. The term "Horde" should be used instead, with a redirect to this page. This is due to the fact that officially speaking the Horde has been teh same organization over the decades, however just its policies and leadership has changed over the years, as described in this article.--Baggins 18:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

But Thrall makes a clear distinction in LotC when chastising an orc warrior who disobeyed direct orders by killing women/children and looting their belongings. He cracked his face with the back of his hand and made a clear distinction about how these were the ways of, in his words, "the old Horde". --- Zexx 00:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That's already cited in the article, and explained. Its the only example of "old Horde" in lore, and it is a very non-formal use for the term for the Horde, where as the Horde itself is just called the "Horde" in the majority of the works. Also, while he does call the horde "new Horde" a few times in the book, there are more instances in the novel where Thrall just calls the Horde, "the Horde". Infact in context Thrall's use of the terms, "old and new" are more to designate past than present of the Horde rather than to define two seperate organizations. There is no reason to start going against the official sources, and start using something with very little use ("old Horde") in place of terminology, and discriptions that have greater total of use.Baggins 03:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Blood Elves
The article is missing a description of how the blood Elves joined the horde. I don't have access to the outside sources, so cannot say too well when and how the blood elves joined, but it does seem like information that would be useful to add.Minionman 03:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)