User talk:Gabrirt

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Infoboxes
Just so you know so you don't go wild with the xpak icons... they will be removed, we're only using the to mark additions, to show they are to come. When Cataclysm goes live they are to be removed. 06:06, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Wikify
I'm going to ask you to please stop overly wikifing articles... I'm not exactly sure why you want to npc every name you come across, but please don't do the same names throughout the article 3-10 times. 03:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * And I don't know who you are, but I'm telling you to STOP overly wikifying articles, I don't care if you want to npc the names in the articles, but DON'T do it to the same name throughout the article several times over. I will not be going through your edits to fix YOUR overly wikifying ways, I will simply revert them, because you have yet to learn and you will not learn if I fix everything for you. 00:38, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gabrirt, let me explain something to you. The person you are arguing with is Coobra, an administrator at wowwiki for a long time now. If he tells you to stop, you stop. Period. End of story.--Sheffi (talk) 21:18, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired
Hey, we're pretty much settled on leaving Wikia, but I wanted to see if you had any input. Thanks. -- 02:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Where is...
Your source for definitively completing Fenran's name as Fenran Thaurissan? You forgot to leave your reference.--Mondoblasto (talk) 05:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Refereces? err... Well, for me it is presumed...  What argument you have to contradict it?? Moira was Bronzebeard... But now is Thaurissan. Both are affiliated within the Dark Iron clan, so why not? If you really think it's wrong go ahead... I will not stop you. (Gabrirt (talk) 18:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC))
 * It's not my argument. Did you check the Discussion page for Fenran?  "I will not (Edit war) you." Well that's certainly good to know.  But indeed, that's why we have Discussion and Talk pages, so that doesn't happen in the first place.--Mondoblasto (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The exact name is now moot, as the page has been updated by someone who saw the info the the latest novel. If you're going to be changing pages like that, the argument "Well, for me it is presumed" is not exactly... accurate information to add to an info wiki.  If you want to add something like that, insert a  tag first and then add your thoughts.--Mondoblasto (talk) 05:56, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Alliance & Horde Information Sidebars
The Alliance & Horde Sidebars are not to be messed with, i see you post unnecessary people in seconday leaders list and non capital cities in city list, please stop doing this to Alliance and Horde or i will have to get an admin involved, be smart, think about before posting and stop messing with them. Thank You --ArbiterX122591 (talk) 05:02 December 6th, 2010 (UTC)
 * For me the valid and aceptable page was [].

Can you explain better [|this monstrus "undo"] of my good works in the page Alliance? Stromgarde and the Wildhammer base isn't important (note: the alliance is more well based than the horde)? Vannddar (General Stormpike) isn't the leader of the stormpike guard? The Gilneans aren't Worgen-Human cursed? What you will say more?! Gilnean isn't a languague? Also the Qiraj serves the Pantheon to you? Reversing, and the next time don't just copy and paste and, please, do a more descent rewiew.(Gabrirt (talk) 19:15, 6 December 2010 (UTC))

First of all if you even played the beta, you would know the Worgen are actually Gilnean people who have been affected by the Curse and the people you put in the secondary leaders are not secondary leaders at all there not even that important, leave the post alone or the admins will end up blocking you from the page, cause we gotta keep cleaning the mess you make --ArbiterX122591 (talk) 21;48 December 6th, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Gabrirt, this is a warning about your editing warring... YOU best starting talking it out instead of pushing the article to how you see things without discussion. Don't know why the Horde and Alliance articles have to be so heavily disputed... 22:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Custom signature
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13:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Opinion
I've been trying to get opinions from those that use NPC in articles, and so if you could please visit Forum:Abuse of Template:Npc on links and give us your opinion on the matter, that would be appreciated. Thank you, 21:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Buckled under the onslaught
Buckle - to yield, surrender, or give way to another. Or to put it more simply, it means they got their asses kicked. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 01:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Infoboxes
It's been noted that you're removing line breaks from the last parameter on infoboxes and the }} such as on this article. Please don't do that. There's a reason that break is there, it's already been seen that other editors changing things end up breaking templates due to this (as they didn't see what they did or what have you). Thank you, 03:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ↑ . 22:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Uh?? I'm not removing the line that you talk.(Gabrirt (talk) 22:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC))
 * Well, it doesn't just happen... certainly not happening with any other user.
 * Recent pages you've done it to:
 * Horde Expedition
 * Warsong Offensive
 * Magatha Grimtotem
 * And I know it's not automatic, cause you didn't do it to Valiance Keep or Valgardeon your latest edits. 20:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Compirmise
Hey we need to make a compirmise for the Leaders, im actually tired always having to come on remove people who dont belong on there .. Response and hopefully we can work out things like Men and not Children. Thanks !! (ArbiterX122591 (talk)04:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC))

Eh?

 * At first I was waiting you, Arbiter, to put the why you as removing every content that I put at first. I was anger as you as you just apparently undid various of my edits without checking every point. Eventually our persistence led us to several edit wars in various articles that can be worthy of an article only about it.

Anyone who review all historical alterations on Horde, Alliance and also Alliance-Horde War, and maybe in probably others, can see this and our comments. I believe that the one who REMOVE INFORMATION must start the discussion and say the whys of the removal(s), because the point of a encyclopedia is give information.

I think that you already contradict yourself most than once and for unknown reasons changed your opinion about " deserves stay in the list", also ignoring my discuss.

And now you are so sad because you may think that I don't discuss, or don't like do it or that I don't like you.

A. I like discuss, but "B." and so I prefer use "believe me", unfortunately... B. I'm not fast to write a text, so I avoid stay minutes and minutes (maybe only this post more than one or two dozen) to write this. C. In fact I don't like really you because of everything that I'm stating here, but it could easily change if the things turn to a right path.

I almost declared war officially in a moment of anger, but I could avoid be this conflicting or aggressive, thing that I'm not. We aren't really enemies, we were staying as rivals, but if we can understand each other I hope that over. I hope not been exaggerated in what I speak.

So, state what you have and start to discuss if really necessary...

(Gabrirt (talk) 23:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC))

Old god forces
Thanks i'm still trying to improve it and i REALLY need to work on the prhasing, but thanks for starting the article--Ashbear160 (talk) 12:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Horde article
I am informing all recent contributors of the Horde article that it has been locked for cleanup. We welcome any and all discussion on the Horde talk page once cleanup has begun. This is to insure everyone who has been editing the article will be happy with it, or at least meet a compromise on certain subjects, so the edit warring can be put to an end. Thank you, 19:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Redirects
I have been noticing that you create redirects so you can poetically or abbreviatedly link pages from passages that you type. This is unnecessary. Please review Help:Piped link to avoid unnecessary redirects in the future.-- 03:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The redirects that I create have sense. I know those shortcurts, but if there is a page called "Gnel Vangun" and both names are uniques, why not create a redirect to make a shotcurt for the page?Gabrirt (talk) 23:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You should not create links only to make them redirects. Your reasoning only works as long as they stay unique, but it could be discussed.-- 00:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Invasion of Gilneas
Where did you get these numbers? If you made them up, stop doing so. If not, please tell me where.-- 17:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I get from the same article on wowwiki, just check. Also don't remove if you don't have a better source.Gabrirt (talk) 23:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And where did THEY get their numbers? Do they have a source, or did they just make them up? The argument of "don't remove unless you have a better source" doesn't hold water if the source you have can't be verified in the first place. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Sincerely I don't know why someone would give to himself the work of making up this. When I see it, I consider that someone have get the information on some source, having or not put the source on the reflist (I didn't check this).
 * Also you have a better idea of the invasion? Shoud I move the numbers to a speculation section on the end of the page? (Gabrirt (talk) 23:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC))


 * If there's no source, then the numbers shouldn't be in the article. It's not speculation based on available information, it's just made-up. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you prof that was made up? The fact of don't having source (for now) don't implies a made up. I can move to a spec section if you think that wold be better.Gabrirt (talk) 00:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I think such specific numbers are made up. Where would they come from?-- 00:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * And this is our stalemate. Coincident, if we consider the result of the conflict. I get it from wowwiki and, in this way, someone have to check the rival wiki to see if there are source. For now I don't known of what came from, but no one can proof if the made up existed or no. Maybe some player have entered in the game mechanics or someway estimated the numbers? The Gnomish submarines can be counted, no?
 * Because the lack of known source until someone check wowwiki, I think that should be considerated spec..Gabrirt (talk) 00:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Or, more accurately, it should be considered "made up" and not included at all. It's not speculation unless you have something to base it on. Anyway, I checked the WoWWiki page, and that particular piece of information isn't sourced. In fact, there's only one source on the entire page, and it has nothing to do with the number of units. Checking the page's history, most of the information on the page was added by the same person, who didn't cite anything. So basically, it boils down to this: either he made it up to pad out the page, or he didn't make it up but didn't explain where he got the information from. And since it's been on WoWWiki since December and that same information hasn't shown up here in the interim, it suggests that there is no source for those numbers and he just came up with it on his own. But hey, if you want to go to WoWWiki and ask him on his talk page, go right ahead. In the meantime, we have to assume that they have no basis in fact and thus no basis in the article. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:45, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

WoWWiki is a wiki, Wowpedia a wiki, anyone is capable of adding anything to articles. As such we nor they source other wikis. So stating a wiki had this info, so you transferred it over, is not a valid reason to add things. 01:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit wars
Could you please be a little less controversial and discuss your changes a little more? I would really appreciate it. Thank you in advance.-- 05:06, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ???? Please explain yourself first.Gabrirt (talk) 05:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You are having a lot of trouble keeping some of your edits on various pages, and you are very enthusiastic about adding them back. You also seem to have some stylistic preferences that differ from the norm. Such things must be discussed first. Just talk about more of your intended changes on talk pages, and forum pages for larger-scale changes.-- 05:24, 3 June 2011 (UTC)