Talk:Undercity

Voices of the Throne room
When you stand in the Throne Room, at least in the center of the circle on the floor, with the ambient sound turned all the way up, in the background noises you can hear small clips of Arthas and King Terenas. I also heard Medivh.
 * Does anyone have the text of the conversation? I can only understand some parts, but I'm no native english speaker. The king: "What is the meaning of this?", probably Arthas: "I have taken care of everything", "... shall arise anew ... the very foundations of the world" --Hurax 07:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I think there is a typo in the page, however I cannot even figure out how to verify it or not. "For those who wish to hear this without venturing into the Undercity, the ambient sound file is located at (WoW Directory)\Data\Sound\Ambience\WMOAmbience\UnderCityThorneRoom.wav" Shouldn't it be "Throne" instead of "Thorne?" Also, I cannot even find a sound folder in my data folder to try and find the sound file to verify if it's a typo or not (or to hear the ambient sounds outside of UC). Can someone correct this or tell me where it is?--Timmythegirl (talk) 08:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

The file path was correct at the time, however the sound files are now hidden. You can still listen to the "ThorneRoom" ambience by using this macro; /script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Ambience\\WMOAmbience\\UnderCityThorneRoom.wav") I'm guessing the file name was misspelled on purpose.--Twistdshade (talk) 00:57, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Wasn't the urn used to revive Kel'Thuzad that of Uther?


 * No. Uther was simply defending King Terenas's urn. :) --Pure.Wasted 22:50, 5 October 2006 (EDT)

Doesn't anyone find it weird
That the Capital city of Lordaeron, now known as Undercity, was the one place that wasn't named? I mean geez, the names of small towns such as 'Hearthglen' are named, but the actual capital of Lordaeron doesn't have a name? -- Blackmorsel


 * It has a name. Undercity. That's no different from Hearthgren or Thunder Bluff, it is a name describing the city's locale. -- Varghedin 12:06 (CET), 22 Oct 2006


 * As you enter the city it tells you you are in the Ruins of Lordaeron, so I'm guessing the name of the city was Lordaeron.
 * Not really much I can say, but the kingdom is called Lordaeron (not Tirisfal) and the capital City of Lordaeron, end of story. --Shandris 09:57, 7 January 2007 (EST)


 * Wasn't that the kingdom AND the city had the same name of "Lordaeron"? I mean, the "City of Lordaeron" could be shortened to just "Lordaeron", so you could use this name both to tell about the kingdom and the capital city itself. --Sul&#39;jin 13:14, 7 January 2007 (EST)
 * It's named in the same way as you have Mexico and Mexico City, really. No need to change that. -- T inker  er  13:20, 7 January 2007 (EST)


 * The city *was* named Lordaeron, but it has been renamed Undercity with the coming of the Forsaken. They are, after all, about as different as two cities built in the same locale could ever be. Capitals bearing the exact same name as the nation are not at all unheard of. -- Varghedin (talk · contr) 18:37, 7 January 2007 (EST)

No, the city is still called Lordaeron or Ruins of Lordaeron. It's just the underground city, under the ruins, that is called Undercity. :) --Oscararon 11:04, 4 February 2007 (EST)


 * Yeah, but nobody lives in those ruins. The Undercity is the only city at that location currently. Incidentially, I think it would be neat if the forsaken inhabited the aboveground part of the city too. -- 11:39, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Or possibly a dungeon for low-level forsaken/blood elves/other hordies that is filled with scourge still. Sortof like RFC.--Keldelis (talk) 02:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, actually, he's got a point. The city's original name as the humans knew it was Capital City. Not much of a name, eh? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by . 20:37, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Scourge
I am pretty sure for some reason the Forsaken were the Scourge in early dev. The files are caled Scourge and their flag is on the Undercity map.-- 23:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

zeppelin

 * There is a Zeppelin tower within fairly short walking distance of the Ruins of Lordaeron, which offers flights to Orgrimmar and Grom'Gol Base Camp.

I don't believe you. Where is it? Sysy 18:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Should add that there is now a Zeppelin to Howling Fjord. --Timmythegirl (talk) 08:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Throne of Lordaeron
Is it just me, or is the Throne far more bejeweled than in the Warcraft III cinematics? Also, the throne room is far smaller, which might just be a scale issue.--Mannerheim 22:57, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It is a scale issue.Baggins 23:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Chests unique to Undercity?
Once when I was on the rafters in the undercity, and I noticed there was an openable chest. I have never seen a chest in Ogrimmar or any other capitol cities. Is this worth mentioning in the article?


 * Rafters?-- 01:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Why didn't you open it?  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  02:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes the rafters, and I did open it basically there was lvl 1-5 starter area quality items. The rafters are the little places where you somtimes fly by when flying through Uc on a bat. -Harlice

To my knowledge, it contains bananas. I cannot check this however, as I don't have a slow fall. --Timmythegirl (talk) 08:05, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Additional Voices
When I finished with listening to the voices in the Throne Room, my ambient sound still up, I ran out to the hallway North of it to head to SC, and heard cheering, clapping, and maybe bells ringing: I can see dead flowerpetals on the floor, and it seems it's the 'hallway' where the people celebrated Arthas's return by throwing flowerpetals in WC3. Can anyone else confirm this? Oh, and I looked in my data file, and there is no Sound folder to be found.--Mondoblasto 11:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, that's correct. -- 07:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Layering Glitch
I recently added another note to the notes section on a bug I had back in either TBC or Vanilla, and slightly speculalated on blizzard using vertical mapping for their zones in addition to the current horizontal one. Further evidence of this, was back when the new combat logs were introduced, and the "everything" button displayed those around you, it would occasionally have players in other zones, and sometimes other continents (just as stonetalon may be layered below silverpine/tirisfal). Any more thoughts to add to this topic?

Races population
If I remember correctly, "Forsaken" is not a race, it is a faction. Therefore, Forsaken should be combined with the population for "undead" on the page under the race name of undead. Maybe leave a note stating how many of the undead are of the Forsaken?

Discuss. -- Sebreth (talk) 11:34, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * It's taken directly from Lands of Conflict. 90% Forsaken, 5% other undead. 20:22, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably in reference to the abominations (who, while made by the Forsaken apothecaries, aren't technically Forsaken even though more than a few of them probably have Forsaken "parts") and possibly imprisoned Scourge/independent undead being experimented on, among others. After doing some math, I came up with 650 for the "5% other undead" figure, likely comprised of the abominations, possibly more than a handful of imprisoned Scourge (guinea pigs), other free-willed undead likely either petitioning Sylvanas for membership or there for whatever reason, ghosts...and so on and so forth. Sounds reasonable, given the fact that the Undercity's so big.  Of course, those figures are probably greatly reduced now that Varimathras and his cronies did what they did, and will likely be diminished even further due to the Cataclysm. --Super Bhaal (talk) 20:35, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * In all fairness, the playable Forsaken are likely just ghouls with more distinct features, though it's impossible to say for sure. The abominations are forsaken, if we could just forsake LoC for a minute, the abominations now have independent thought (crude as it may be) as WOULD any nerubians the Forsaken have taken (we see very little) and necromancers (likely playable forsaken with the necromancer class, necromancers are a different case as they are humans)  Forsaken is a new affiliation (though easily classified as another race, because we see so few playable undead models elsewhere). Oakpack4 (talk) 19:09, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * That. --Super Bhaal (talk) 19:29, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Errors in geography?
In the WC3 movie where Arthas returns to Lordaeron, first we see him walking beneath the bell tower, then crossing the bridge, passing the flowerpetal throwing crowd until he enters the throne room. However, when we look at the layout of the Ruins of Lordaeron in WoW we first encounter the bridge, then the bell tower. So I wonder if this difference is an error in geography, altered lore or just a case of creative movie editing by Blizz. --Blind priest (talk) 16:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think that the Capital City of Lordaeron appears in order during the cinematic, and the WoW version is scaled down and summarized.-- 21:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)