Talk:King Ymiron

Old discussion
Slumbering may mean dead. An alliance with the Lich King could be to bring him back. Just a thought.-- 19:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It can also mean that he is slumbering, but not without awareness, like the green dragons, who are also slumbering but controlling their bodies from their Emerald Dream. Also a thought. [[Image:IconLarge_Troll_Male.gif]] , the Necroshadowmancer 21:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Is he... Awake?
It sas he's sleeping in the article, yet in the picture, is he standing with his eyes open?  Mr.X8  Talk Contribs  20:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * See Queen Angerboda. He wakes up after you kill her.-- 20:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Neither Ymirjar nor Vargul?
It is stated throughout Icecrown and Storm Peaks that all Vrykul, presumably upon reaching adulthood, undergo challenges (either the Hyldsmeet or battling at Valhalas) that determine whether they will become Ymirjar or Vargul. Clearly Ymiron does not have the blue skin or frost accumulation of an Ymirjar warrior, and is undead. Does this mean he failed his challenge?  Thio : Talk  and Contributions  11:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

No, as whether or not these trials previously existed in a different form, neither vargul nor ymirjar existed before the coming of the Lich King. Ymiron is over 15 millenia old, thus predating this practice by eons. His undeath is a "gift" of sorts. -- 13:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Tactics
Edit: Ran on normal tonight, and only got two boats triggered - seems to be a time function, not damage, at least on normal. Anyone else confirm this, with times?
 * It's definitely health. I've seen him hit one boat and then the next not five seconds later because he was being burned so fast. He always does two boats on normal, four on heroic. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 09:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Age?
Is the King Ymiron we fight in Utgarde Pinnacle really the same King Ymiron who ordered all deformed vrykul children killed? Because if so, that would make him more than 15,000 years old. Alpha Sigma Sigma (talk) 11:36, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * He went into stasis. Also, we do not know vrykul lifespans.-- 01:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * He's also undead.--Ashbear160 (talk) 01:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Not initially.-- 01:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * He's undead cause the Lich King brought him back after we killed him by bringing him out of stasis improperly (I believe was the story), while at the same time killing his mate... surprised the Lich King didn't raise both of them though. 04:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think he died at that point.-- 04:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * You're right, but going back to age it's also likely given the storyline that all vyrkul are around the same age, since they recently just started showing up and causing trouble to the local humans that were stranded there. 04:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)