Talk:Cenarion Expedition

Cenarion Expedition Rep
I've been grinding nagas at Neutral for a while now, and I have yet to notice any nagas give anything other than 5 reputation. Is anyone else noticing different rep gains like the author says there is? --Parprapa, 16:19 PST 23 Jan 2007
 * im honored now, and having trouble finding stuff to give rep to get me revered 15:58, 27 January 2007 (EST)
 * Still poorly documented few info about honored > revered 09:41, 30 January 2007 (EST)
 * Based on other grinds, I'd say run Steam Vault. Starlightblunder 04:09, 31 January 2007 (EST)

I gave the article a major overhaul today. Need confirmation on whether Underbog trash continues to give reputation from Honored to Revered, or if this stops at the beginning of Honored. Also, I'm adding in a complete list of reputation rewards. Please be patient for the next week or so as I add these items to the WoWWiki Database--feel free to pitch in if you wish. -- ClobberGirl, 02/01/2007

only the first few critters in underbog gave me rep, bosses didnt, it may be a bug thatll be fixed soon.. 02:54, 2 February 2007 (EST)


 * --Wodahs 04:21, 3 February 2007 (EST) Under Bats and Murkblood Healers gave me 7 rep each at 1387 into Honored in Underbog. Made 245 rep on the trip but we did not clear everything.
 * Underbats definitely do give 7 rep each at Honored, don't know about other mobs. --Itinerant 02:24, 5 February 2007 (EST)

Hmm... I just completed an Underbog run on my druid, who was at about 3300/5999 Friendly when we started the instance. Every single mob in the instance gave me 7 rep, and ever boss gave me 70 rep. But you're at honored, right? Maybe it's different for honored > revered? I'll probably hit honored by tomorrow and will do an underbog run to check it out. -- ClobberGirl, 02/02/2007
 * im quite sure honored is different :)
 * usually when rep stops it stops at 5999/6000, or 11999/12000 depending on the faction. i havent been in the steamvault yet (trying to hit 70 first), but aparently you get more rep there for stuff at honored  03:28, 2 February 2007 (EST)

I saw the same thing as Itinerant. Underbats gave 7 rep each still at Honored. Updating the page to reflect this. -- Manan 14:36, 7 February 2007 (EST)

I killed several couples of Wrekt Slaves today. No reputation gain at all. I'm Friendly, 191/6000. --Veenter 05:18, 13 February 2007 (EST)

So that means that both Wrekt Slaves and Underbats were changed in 2.0.7 to no longer give reputation farther than the other mobs around them. --Lindorm 12:23, 15 February 2007 (EST)

We ran Steamvault today with a tank that dinged Revered in the middle of it - rep gain continued after Revered exactly as it had before Revered, 2 per nonelite, 12 per elite, and 120 per boss.

The guide sugests saving quests for the revered->exalted push, but I didn't see any ways to gain rep that go away at revered. Perhaps lump honored->revered->exalted into one big span?Chtaiae 17:23, 17 February 2007 (EST)


 * I now second the idea of combining honored->revered->exalted since the only differences was the 2 mobs in Underbog that gave rep (and even this may have been patched by now.) Even if they were not patched and still gives rep, one can expect to make about 110 per a run, hardly worth saving quests and the other turn-ins for. --Lindorm 14:50, 7 March 2007 (EST)

There is one way, running Underbog and killing the Murkblood Healer (7 rep) and Hungarfen (70 rep) but it is not worth the effort anymore for the ~110 rep you'll be getting for the run. --Lindorm 12:56, 19 February 2007 (EST)

The flask in rewards is listed as Revered when it should be listed as Exalted. --Lindorm


 * So fix it, this is a wiki 16:17, 21 February 2007 (EST)


 * I cannot figure out how to make the changes to the rewards table. There are a few mistakes with the quality of the item and the reputation at which a couple are at. --Lindorm 14:50, 7 March 2007 (EST)

I added quest:Warden Hamoot back, while it gives no reputation itself, it *IS* a prerequisite to the quest:A Warm Welcome, and should be there for clarity. --Mainiac 08:27, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

I am too much of a noob to figure out how to add the Earthen Elixir recipe (added in 2.10) to the table. --Bregdark 13:28, 25 May 2007 (PDT)

Underbog Rep range?
I am removing this from the table:

"After Hungarfen rep continues past honored"

Every indication I've seen is that the non-heroic, non-keyed instances all give rep with their respective faction to the end of friendly. Fyreblaize, can you confirm what does and does not grant rep in Underbog past friendly and/or honored please? 00:08, 25 February 2007 (EST)


 * Strike that, I see the notes below about sporebats and "half runs". Is it only trash beyond Hungarfen, or bosses as well that grant rep?  00:13, 25 February 2007 (EST)

It's been a while since I ran underbog, but as soon as I dinged honored I was no longer getting any rep. The one exception were the sporebats, but that was hotfixed out. So in honored you only get rep in steamvaults and from quests.--Stfrn 01:23, 25 February 2007 (EST)


 * What about Hungarfen? Did that get fixed as well?  09:29, 25 February 2007 (EST)

From what I know in 2.0.7 (the last patch I was Honored with CE) only Hungarfen and Murkblood Healers gave rep with CE. No other bosses or mobs. Now this may have since been patched as the current version is 2.0.9.

Can anyone who is Honored with CE confirm that Hungarfen and Murkblood Healers are still giving rep in normal Underbog? --Lindorm 17:30, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Reputation Table
I moved 'Plants of Zangermarsh' and Uncatalogued Species out of Neutral because you cannot get those quests at Neutral. Also, quests continue to give rep until the end of exalted, not until the end of revered as shown on this table. --Lindorm 16:57, 25 February 2007 (EST)


 * Just wanted to make sure because you moved a couple of cells around and it looked misformed. I thought however, they did end before exalted, so i won't change that part until someone else can confirm. -- Zeal  talk   contr  web 17:01, 25 February 2007 (EST)


 * Aye, everyone keeps saying "until exalted" not "through exalted", therefore the table showed this. Are you certain the quests cannot be obtained at neutral?  I could swear the quest was available the minute I hit the Refuge...   17:57, 25 February 2007 (EST)

The 'Plants of Zangarmarsh' quest bar needs to be fixed, as you can no longer turn in Unidentified Plant Parts after you hit honored. You can continue to turn in Uncatalogued Species until exalted, but there's no way to get them once you hit honored. I was friendly before I hit Zangarmarsh, so I dunno about when you can pick up the quests... --Azaram 23:13, 25 February 2007 (EST)

Ack, I realized how my last comment came off wrong. I did not specifically mean these 2 quests continue until the end of Exalted, I had meant it in general as the reasoning why I extended the reputation bar to the end of Exalted. There is only 1000 rep from the beginning to the end of Exalted and there is no example I know of in the game where something that gave rep at Revered did not give rep at Exalted. So for the most part "until Exalted," "through Exalted," "up to Exalted" will mean until the end of Exalted (999/999.)--Lindorm 02:11, 26 February 2007 (EST)


 * I didn't mean my comment to sound like 'Fix it you bozo', sorry if I gave that impression...To me, '(up) To exalted' means 'when you hit exalted, you can't do it anymore', and 'through ' or 'to the end of' exalted means 'until you reach 999/1000 when you can't get any more points'. Is there anything that you have to have max exalted to get? Or does one point into it give you all the possible rewards? I do like the way the table makes it easy to figure out when and for how long you can do what, so you don't waste time (like I did, collecting over a hundred unID'd plant bits and then being able to only turn in like 30...). --Azaram 23:03, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Just checked on my old character, and you can grab the Plants of Zangermarsh quest at Neutral. I cannot figure out how to make the simple changes I want on this table with all the extra coding for the coloring.--Lindorm 03:41, 26 February 2007 (EST)


 * Aye, I'm going to move Zeal's styling into templates until we can get some real CSS to make this a bit easier to work with. Thank you for the confirmation, I'll adjust the bars.   18:41, 26 February 2007 (EST)

I have started working on the reputation tables for other factions, and liked the general layout of this table vs. the Darktable so I have moved everything into the 'CSS Reptable' template set which should simplify editing the individual tables, and keep them all uniform. This particular table is wider than any of the others, I've been pondering how to narrow it up to fit 1024 width, more on it later. --Mainiac 08:27, 11 March 2007 (EDT)


 * Drop the use of for just normal wiki links, and throw more  's in.  Also, reptable is the new styling here, darktable was initially used cause it already existed at the time.   10:08, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

Concerning the Terokkar forest rep: I just changed the total to 1875, since noone can do both the horde and alliance quests. However, that means the numbers don't "add up" at first glance. I just couldn't think of a brief, clear comment to explain why the total is what it is :/ Feel free to add one :) --Sallick 08:43, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

Lol, thanks for catching that and correcting it (again.) Has anyone been able to verify recently that Hungarfen and the Healers still give rep at Honored? --Lindorm 21:58, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Confirmed yesterday, l66, honored, 70 rep for Hungarfen and 7 for each healer. --Hurax 18:43, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Changes in 2.10: Hungarfen 70 rep, Swamplords and Giants 7, Healers 0. --Hurax 12:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhh, something is wrong here. The table says that the total rep earned for a full clear of Heroic Steamvault is 2,319. This is impossible. None of the rep gains per kill are an odd number, so this number is innately incorrect just due to this fact. SpACatta 21:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably added by someone playing a human... --Hurax 09:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

minor cleanup
Quests are mentioned above at honored, so I'll remove them from revered stage since the Underbog reputation isn't really worth holding them off. --Hurax 09:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

The new rep table (well, new compared to when I last looked here 4 months ago ;P) is cool, but some of the quest areas (Terrokar, Blade's Edge, Netherstorm) disappeared; I added them back in using the information from about 7.4. on this page; at least then the information was correct (although I can't remember for sure if the netherstorm stuff really brought Expedition rep, but I'll assume someone checked it back then :-)) - if something has changed in the interim (nothing that I know of for this faction), please fix it :-). I'll be trying it out myself relatively soonish.

Edit: Oh hey, the quest list is still there, so I guess it's also correct :-) (http://www.wowwiki.com/Cenarion_Expedition/Quests)

--Sallick 08:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Well theory
Since no evidence exists, I've reworded the section about the Well of Eternity theory. If there is evidence, please go ahead and change it back. --Raze 06:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No raider has confirmed this? No quests hint at it? I agree.-- 15:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Since Her Excellency herself said that she just wants to control the water reserves to get power over outland, let's leave it with that ;) --Hurax 16:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Uncatalogued Species
Someone who knows first hand until when you can turn in those and get reputation should post this so the constant changing and undoing stops... --Hurax 20:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

2.3 Daily?
Could someone add the details for the daily quest added in patch 2.3, "WANTED: Coilfang Myrmidons" where you kill 14 mobs.

I'd add it but what's written above is all I know. The quest isn't listed on thottbot yet and I don't know how much rep it gives (got the quest last night but didn't get the 14 kills before the pug fell apart). Beorn 21:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Normal dungeon daily, if it is like the heroic dailies, those give 350 Consortium rep and 350 for the dungeon faction, did not do any of the normal ones yet... --Hurax 08:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Coilfang Reservoir (dungeons)
I don't know how they were listed on previous versions of the Dungeon Finder, but with the Patch 4.x.x DF the Underbog and the Slave Pens instances are listed only on Heroic difficulty. The Steamvault is listed both on Normal Difficulty and on Heroic difficulty. Completing the Cenarion Expedition quest to discover the fate of the four missing members of the expedition that were sent to investigate the Coilfang Reservoir can be infeasible because of this difference. -- Starfire (talk) 09:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * What level is this at? You might be too high level to be able to queue for Underbog and Slave Pens on normal mode. -- 09:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)