Talk:Kur'talos Ravencrest

He/She Statue in Azshara
Arent he she? i mean, she?s statue is female. Noobi666 (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What. -- 16:55, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What. -- 17:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * While poor in punctuation and grammar, Noobi's comment probably refers to the statue that is the Ravencrest Monument looking female, when Kur'talos was male. His link is vague, but makes sense when you look a few pictures in and see the statue here.-- 22:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's quite possible that the monument is of some other individual with the Ravencrest surname, since the statue is located near the ruins of an ancient Kaldorei city that seems to predate the War of the Ancients. The monument could be for Kur'talos Ravencrest himself, and Blizzard simply recycled a generic broken statue model.  However, my opinion lies with the former possibility.  Since Kur'talos Ravencrest was considered such a heroic figure during the War, I would expect a monument to him to have been built somewhere more central to post-Sundering Kaldorei, such as Ashenvale or Hyjal, not next to an abandoned city.  I would also expect that such a monument would not have been allowed to fall into such disrepair.Synchronizor (talk) 22:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Illidan a relative
Should Illidan really be listed as a relative? Ravencrest was his patron and had no family ties to either Stormrage brother Drkstrm (talk) 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Illidan is listed as "client", maybe "Second in command" or something alike would fit better?
 * 22:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * But listing Illidan under the heading of relative just doesn't make sense despite the tag afterwards of (client), it already states in the article that he was Illidan's patron. Drkstrm (talk) 23:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * "Relatives" just means "(Lore) People he dealt/deals with" it does not limit to a familial link. And the box is a sum of the article, that's why it's said in both on them. (just like in all other articles)
 * 23:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ok.. that makes sense in round about sorta way :) Drkstrm (talk) 00:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Uh, in every other article, relatives are actual relations. If we listed everyone they'd ever dealt with that section of the info box would be ridiculously huge for the more major characters. Since their relation was purely a military/business one, I'm removing Illidan. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes more sense to me.. I don't edit/remove stuff here if I can possibly help it without being sure..and I can actually see both sides of the debate for this one Drkstrm (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I said that in a global way to make Drkstrm understand Dark T Zeratul :) I did not mean "every one he dealt/deals with" xD
 * But why removing Illidan for his relatives ? If we take it out of Kurtalos, then shouldn't we also take it out of Illidan ? Both side of the debate feel right as said Drkstrm.
 * 07:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, yeah, we should. So I did. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps using a different title.. 'associate' or 'contact' instead of 'relative'... something more precise to reflect the actual relationship. Drkstrm (talk) 21:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Again, though, the section is specifically FOR relatives. If we broadened it out, think how long it would be for characters like, say, Kil'jaeden? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I wasn't all that clear, Illidan Stormrage has a Relative(s), Mentor(s), Student(s)...why not have Mentor(s) or Patron(s) as well? Drkstrm (talk) 23:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a topic that's probably more suited for a general WoWWiki discussion page, since we've kind of moved beyond Kur'talos at this point. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * True.. I think we've beaten this one to death as it were :) Drkstrm (talk) 01:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well Kil'jaeden is a really big opposite exemple : "Relative(s): Velen (formerly best friend, now arch-nemesis), Archimonde (fellow legion commander)" BUT, none of them has a family link with him! and the same goes for Archimonde who states "Relative(s): Sargeras (master)"
 * 11:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)