Talk:Bluewall

Unintentional used to say "attack a PvP-enabled player using AoE / multitarget abilities", however i'm fairly certain this isn't possible, it wasn't many years ago (RP realm, AOEing down mobs, flagged alliance player dancing around the mobs trying to get us to accidentally hit him so he could gank us, AOE did not strike the player), and didn't seem to be today (got dismounted in alerion hold, ran out healing myself, hit fear not thinking, nothing got feared ofc) - so i'm pretty sure AOE attacks simply are not capable of hitting pvp-enabled player or pvp-enabling (enabled?) mobs if you are not flagged - which is worth nothing in its self if you're plannign a bluewall aoe attack however just wanted to correct the innacuracy rather than write a "how to gank people" guide.

Actually I'll go put in that AOE should be safe...

Iprice (talk) 00:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Unfair?
I just wanted to question the statement made that Bluewalling is unfair. Let's explore how it works. On a non-PVP server, you somehow get flagged. Whether you attacked someone, you were in a raid on a city, Halaa, whatever. The objection to that is, after that, say you are fighting an NPC, but you are still flagged. An enemy player runs up to you and ganks you while you are distracted killing this other NPC. Does that make you angry? Sure. Is it unfair? No! When you attack another player, you are agreeing to a be flagged for PVP for 5 minutes at least, and everything that that entails. If you don't want to get ganked, don't flag up! This kind of stuff is what makes PVP great. Every second you are flagged up, you have to stay on alert. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

AoEs

 * Also note it is not possible to become flagged through use of AOE attacks around players or NPCs, the attack will simply have no effect and will not flag you. Bear this in mind if you are fleeing from NPC guards and you try and AOE fear/snare/etc to escape as it will do nothing. This behaviour also prevents griefing attacks where flagged players could stalk a player using AOE to farm mobs.

I do not believe this is true. Some time last spring I had just started a new Blood Elf. An Ally rode up and stared. I was not flagged, and not about to engage a rider with my level 1/2. He did something and me and the mana worms around the area all dropped dead. So his AoE was able to gank an unflagged new character.

FWIW, I don't know what he used, but I suspect it was an engineering explosive. Whatever it was was instant.

In any case, I'm pretty sure that any item than spawns a hostile mob can be used to indirectly circumvent this restriction. Madkaugh (talk) 00:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)