User talk:Kenadams

Too whomever you are.

War supplies

Horde gathered the bulk of the supplies. Mainly because they are, unlike other servers, signicantly bigger in numbers on Al'Akir, but also because great amounts of Alliance farming time was wasted by MR and more significantly DoV who spent valuable time on the scepter quest when that was deemed unnecessary. Certain guilds put considerable effort into the farming process through supplies 'lotteries' that proved to be very popular.

'''Meanwhile, DoV were stuck on Princess Huhuran, which was received by great laughter of the Al'Akir community, as one of their guild leaders had previously announced they achieved a level of raiding that would allow them to fight alongside DS and SotG. They overestimated their farming capabilities for the scepter quest and they severely overestimated their raiding capacities compared to DS and SotG.'''

how can you not call that bad mouthing from yourside then? please enlighten me.

And I did not add the Horde/Alliance raiding imbalances I only removed the bad mouthing of DoV and MR and the Glorification of SotG, As it was when I edited it was nothing close to objective.

AQ40 Scepter
I don't think you,me or anyone can say the task to restore the scepter was "placed" on anyone. DoV wasn't only supported by MR, but also ED, Destiny, Phased and others helped them as far as I know. Apart from that, the raiding-guilds are only a small fraction of the server's population and noone can say how the broad majority of the server's population felt about who should collect the scepter.

In the end, both DoV and DS decided to start doing the scepter-quest for whatever reason - they decided they would want to do the quest, noone "placed" the task onto them. DS did so two days after DoV started and said they were working on the scepter quest (and turned in quite an ammount of carapace already). I believe both guilds communicated about who should continue the scepter-quest at that time, but they didn't come to a conclusion apart from agreeing not to attack each other. For some reason, SotG decided to support DS: I believe it is because SotG thought DS could complete the quest faster and SotG's main aim was to get AQ40 World Firsts (or something close at least). Afterwards, SotG apparently put a high effort into sabotaging DoV's efforts to complete the scepter-quest. Consequently, DS completed the Silithus-farming first, but of course DoV didn't feel like ending after they've invested so much time and after they've been treated in a that disrespectful way by SotG.

The "requests" DoV got concerning stopping to use time with the gate-opening quest and farming war effort supplies instead almost solely came from the opposing scepter-quest team, particularly SotG. Again, that's not representative for Al'Akir as whole. I believe the gates would have been opened fastest if DS would have just let DoV do the gate-opening quest, because DoV had the 10% human reputation bonus and they started earlier. DoV obviously was able to handle the challenging raid-encounters / guild-tasks involved, too. Of course, if DoV would have stopped doing the scepter quest after they lost the "Silithus race", that would have resulted in a faster gate-opening. You could blame DS as much for starting the quest-chain even though someone else already was on it, though. I believe both guilds have deserved blame for what happened.

AQ40 Scepter & Ahn'Qiraj
If you think there is room to make fun of DoV for not meeting the goals one of their members had (just because it was a leader doesn't mean it was an official guild statement... I remember fun points made by SotG-members that comments made by people like Meynard don't representate the guild as whole), you aswell have to say to their defense that they still managed to be the 2nd best alliance-guild in AQ40 / the 3rd best guild on Al'Akir. If you are the 2nd fastest progressing guild in Ahn'Qiraj, what other aims should you have but to beat the next higher ranked guild? Trying to perform better than the 1st placed guild as 2nd placed guild seems quite reasonable.

"Nobody cares about 2nds... let alone 3rds.." is a subjective perception by you, In my opinion there can never be enough information. Since you left out your angry badmouthing comments, I can go for keeping the AQ40 progress article short here, though. Also, if you are thinking that way, mind if I edit out that SotG was 10th in Europe to kill C'Thun? I mean, really... who cares about a 10th placed guild, especially if C'Thun basically was about "Who can enter AQ40 first after C'Thun suddenly got hotfixed?". Mentioning you were 10th to down C'Thun in Europe seems quite poor under those conditions :(.

Who opened the gate of Ahn'Qiraj can not be said for sure, since the server-message that announced who banged the gong first was bugged (it displayed "$name" or some variable like that) and it doesn't matter anyways because both banged the gong within a minute. Lylz "opening the gate" because he got the Scepter of the Shifting Sands first is an interpretation by you. I'd prefer to post the whole story behind the gate-opening so everyone can build up their own opinion rather than getting fed one by you. In either case, the AQ40 gate-opening quest was an important event for the server and members from almost all big guilds anxiously observed the progress of both scepter-candidates. I insist on mentioning more details to the Al'Akir gate-opening process somewhere, it's a quite complex story and not as easy and flawed to explain as you attempt to.

I guess the gate-opening went very wrong for SotG since they couldn't shine right at the opening (neither did they involve themself in the fun scepter quests, nor did they manage to overcome their greed and start lotteries like DS did) or afterwards at competing with other European / World guilds. You shouldn't let that anger and frustration be a reason to leave out valuable information on the Al'Akir wowwiki page, though.

If you feel that the AQ40 gate-opening story takes too much room on the Al'Akir page, I can go for writing a summary which contains that both Astaren and Lylz finished the scepter quest before the war effort ended (you may even mention that Lylz was first). Afterwards, we can start a new wowwiki page with detailed information and point interested readers at that. Like I said above, there never can be enough information and there are enough ways to categorize / sort them so people who prefer to only read a small summary can skip those details.

Oh and: "Every instance announcement DoV is claiming they gonna pwn it up and beat DS/SotG and everytime they get beaten the shit out of them in terms of progress.". Horrible generalization, are you getting angry? :(

Re
In fact, noone but Astaren and Lylz completed the AQ40 scepter quest up to today. Therefore, only as many guilds completed the scepter quests as killed Kel'Thuzad atm (two) - quite noteworthy. Besides that, DoV's achievement is not only to have completed the scepter quest, but to have completed it in time before the gate opened. Because the happenings back then received a lot of public attention, they deserve to be mentioned.

At the time CrazyGamer said he would want to challenge SotG, DoV was the 3rd best performing guild. Only that time matters for his statement.

Apart from that, the Al'Akir server page is not "owned" by you, despite you having started the PvE Progress section. Noone "owns" or is responsible in a particularly special way for wikipedia pages. You leave out information that matter (besides that, the sentence I wrote isn't even one line wronger than yours and therefore not using up much room). All in all, your arguments just make no sense and it sense, this is the Al'Akir server page and not the "Al'Akir history from SotG's point of view"-page. If you want to create a place on the internet where you can twist server events in a way that glorifies SotG and makes all guilds but maybe DS appear as worthless, then I suggest doing so on sotg.sauft.org rather than here (nice how you claim you want this page to be as objective as possible when the history reveals quite a lot of nonsense written in the past).