Talk:Gronn

Demigod epithets
Are "the little guy with the sickle, the six-legged wolverine, the tiny fox" really demigods that someone recognizes? This sounds like a joke. It was added in this edit: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Gronn&diff=383118&oldid=383107 and doesn't seem to have bothered anyone, but it sounds irredeemably goofy. --Mellonicus 00:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that whoever stuck that on there was referring to a few demigods that were mentioned briefly in the War of the Ancients Trilogy. When Cenarius brought the other major demigods like Ursol, Ursoc, Aviana, and Agammaggan they were accompanies by lots of "lesser" demigods (similar to dryads, keepers and ancients) Jarod Shadowsong makes a brief description of a few both when they show up, and another when they begin battle. I believe he says "Beyond them (Ursol and Ursoc) only slightly smaller a being resembeling a wolverine, with six limbs and a serpentine tail eagerly surveyed the distant battlefield..." Xlel 01:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Nagrand Mountain Gronn
There are unnamed elite Gronn in western Nagrand simply called "Mountain Gronn." I know I saw at least 5 of them. Perhaps the Seven Gronn refer to Gruul's children, and not just the total Gronn in general. --DerSquirrel 00:04, 6 March 2007 (EST)


 * While I doubt that the seven are exclusively Gruul's children, the Mountain Gronn clearly aren't, and could perhaps be a step between Ogre Lord and Gronn. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 10:51, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Gadgets Gronn Theory
Bit long, tink i'll put it here: Gronn Theory

Hmmmm...LEGION!!!
The void terrors look very simmilar to 2 headed gron with eyestalks on their backs. I mean the legions servants (or legion members themselves I cant remember;P) managed to give standard ogres 2 heads so why not a simmilar treatment for the more powerful and more valuable gronn- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.


 * I do not see it.-- 21:15, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

Ogre language
I'm sure they have a language even if it is just a dialact of common or orcish. Alot of their places have wierd names that don't sound common. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Sign your posts...!!! Its called Low Common there is no specific, ogre language. Yet... Blizzard or the rpg could always create a language for them in the future. But speculation like that must remain out of the racebox. Racebox is not for speculation discussions. Baggins 00:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * As per Baggins, "Racebox is not for speculation discussions" (and neither should articles degenerate into such). Don't abuse it, I'm getting tired of reverting. 00:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Let that be a final warning, if we see it happen again, we will take action and you will have a few days to yourself to think upon your actions.Baggins 00:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It has been said that there diffrent dialects of Low Common based culture. Ogres probably have their own variant on low common.' Zarnks 01:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Am I mistaken or didn't ogres originate from Draenor? Raze 01:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Its extremely confusing. Talk to Baggins about it,hes the expert on common.Zarnks 02:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Common is oddly everywhere.-- 02:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, don't bother actually, I'm sure Blizz doesn't take languages that seriously for lore purposes. Raze 02:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

The Best guess would be the Titans created it and Humans weren't creative enough to make their own language. Zarnks 02:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure they were creative enough to make their own language. That's like saying hawaiian creole (pidjin) isn't creative. Hawaiian creole is considerd its own language according to linguistics.Baggins 01:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Dragonkiller?
I think we have some contradicting lore here....or atleast not well explained

The black dragons did not enter Draenor until the 2nd war....there seems to be no other dragons that were born in Outland...so how can there be dragon killing gronn? Rannulf 00:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Please elaborate, i don't understand the contradiction. It can be simply explained as being a recent title.Warthok 03:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm could be.... I just been looking at lore on the dragons going into outland and that's probably it.

Sign your post with ~ ~ ~ ~(no spaces). They've had about twenty years or so to kill dragons. They've earned those titles since then. Though there is some evidence that dragons existed on draenor before the black flight went there. The Dragonmaw clan held that name for generations.Tweak the Whacked (talk) 23:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't start that again.-- 23:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes like in the novel Beyond the dark Portal, The sons of Lothar help the gronn and Gruul against the black dragonflight. many black Dragons were slain and several others were literally eaten by the gronn. That is most likely the cause of titles like Dragonkiller and Dragon-Eater. Okolorion (talk) 03:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Point of note the Dragonmaw clan existed on Draenor before coming to Azeroth. Obviously something dragon-like existed on the world, or shared the same name.Baggins (talk) 05:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Think of it.....
You all know how the hunters teir six armor is called Gronnstalker armor, well what if hunters could learn a special ability with this armor called "Summon Gronn" or "Tame Gronn." Imagine it level seventies with these huge monsters called whatever they name it. If you like this idea or don't please contact me a hevman@volcano.net. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by.

Do hunters in giantstalker summon or tame giants? Dragonstalker summon or tame dragons? Demonstalker, voidstalker, cryptstalker, so forth and so on.Tweak the Whacked (talk) 23:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Seven Gronn
The Burning Crusade website was at some point updated and removed the passage about there only being seven gronn in existance. You can see the original text and the new text  (You can even see blizzard left in the "these rumors are a cold comfort etc...). The article was written with the stipulation that there were only seven gronn and tries to justify this by describing the mountain gronn as lesser gronn, and other such explainations. These are no longer needed and the article could use a bit of an overhaul to be more inclusive. And maybe a note at the end about the change. I'd do it myself (and will) but i'm about to fall asleep at my keyboard. 12:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Also the new passage no longer refers to the Gronn as demi-gods.

Old text: ''Monstrous. Cyclopean. Terror incarnate. Words cannot begin to describe the terrible gronn of Outland, the immortal demigods of the ogre race. Some say the gronn gave rise to the lesser ogres, yet if so, the gronn show but little love for their offspring, lording over the ogre clans with an iron fist. There are said to be only seven gronn in all of existence, and they are not famed for their intelligence. Nonetheless, such rumors are cold comfort in light of the undeniable fact that the gronn wield devastating power.''

New text: ''Monstrous. Cyclopean. Terror incarnate. Words cannot begin to describe the terrible gronn of Outland. Some say the gronn gave rise to the lesser ogres, yet if so, the gronn show but little love for their offspring, lording over the ogre clans with an iron fist. Though they are not famed for their intelligence, such rumors are cold comfort in light of the undeniable fact that the gronn wield devastating power.'' 15:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)