Talk:An'she

Sun God
Would this be related to the sun god worshiped by the high elves? Quote from high elf page, "They abandoned the concepts of Elune and nocturnal activity, embracing the sun instead."

In my opinion this means that as Mu'sha is the Tauren counterpart to Elune, so is An'she the counterpart of the elven sun god. It occured to me that the answer to the god's name would lie with the high elves, or the blood elves but doubtful, or it hasn't been named yet. Chilling Winds


 * Isn't that what the article says? -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 12:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was wondering the same thing, think that theory is good. ~JBF~ 17:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, according to lore high elves don't generally believe in concepts such as gods (although some have been known to embrace traditions surrounding some gods, some have festivals to Malorne for example), they tend to be just more concerned with power (but not to the extent of blood elves), rather than worshiping the source of powers. Also many became members of the Church of Light but as we know that church generally isn't concerned with higher beings. If anyone is interested in some direct quotes mentioning that high elves aren't concerned with gods, and the exceptions to that idea, let me know. When I have the time I'll hunt them up.Baggins 18:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The high elves do not regard the sun, which they name Belore, as a god, but do see it as the principle of reason, or order, by which natural laws may be understood. I swear I saw this referenced somewhere, but have not come across a reference, and so only mention it on the Discussion page. Jubaal (talk) 10:33, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you think Blizzard would include An'she in WoW with a different name?TharamaDawnblade 11:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Entirely possible. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 16:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Relatives
So does this mean that An'she and Mu'sha are the children of the Earthmother? Rolandius ( talk  -  contr ) 03:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * They're described as her eyes. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 03:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Which means? Since she is a "real" person, and not an idea or something, they cannot just be her "eyes".    Rolandius [[Image:Paladin.gif|25x25px]] ( talk  -  contr ) 04:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, we don't know if the Earthmother is a real goddess or just a collection of ideas, or one of the beings listed (most of whom have no other connection with Elune anyway). It doesn't "mean" anything, it's mythology, it's mostly metaphor. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 13:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Belore->An'she?
Maybe the elven name of An'she is tne word Belore(in Thalassian witch means "sun").Like Chilling Winds said that the origins of the elven name of An'she may be from the High elven language. e.x. It is said that the left eye of the Earthmother was the Moon(Elune in Darnassian) and the right eye of the Earthmother was the Sun(Belore in Thalassian).Dedokire (talk) 12:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * That works linguistically (in Egyptian, "Re" is the word for sun as well as the proper name of the sun god), though we don't have any evidence either way, and we don't know if Elune is the Darnassian word for moon (or at least the larger of the two) or an untranslatable proper noun. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 13:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I am realy confident that Elune means Moon in Darnassian because of this text:

The Earthmother's eyes shone down upon the lands she had breathed into creation. Her right eye, An'she (the sun), gave warmth and light to the land. Her left eye, Mu'sha (the moon), gave peace and sleep to the stirring creatures of the dawning. And from some NE battlecryes say:"By the light of the Moon" and "By the light of Elune" witch are very simmilar.And baybe they allso have an elven name for the Blue Child.Dedokire (talk) 18:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * And allso you can confirm that Elune is the White Lady:

The larger, bright and silver moon is known as the White Lady. The Night Elves know and worship it as Elune while the Taruen refer to it as Mu'sha (the left eye of the Earthmother) in Sorrow of the Earthmother.Dedokire (talk) 18:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * As I already stated, I think your theory works perfectly, and I can produce a half-dozen real world examples to back it up. However, we have no other evidence and Blizzard doesn't seem to be doing anything with An'she any time soon. -- Ragestorm (talk &middot; contr) 01:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

An'she=Light?
As you know, many people were stunned by the idea of allowing Tauren to become Paladins (especially with all the 'Bovine Storm' jokes). I've been giving some serious thought into the matter, and i have a theory; maybe An'she the Sun God was an ancient Tauren figure meant to represent the Holy Light. I came up with the idea when, after seeing his name pop up in the forums involving the new expansion, i researched him. So if my theorizing is right (and im not saying it is), maybe An'she's worshippers were ancient paladins, and the Tauren only recently rediscovered their lost history (maybe due to the Blood Elves' joining the Horde).
 * You and everyone else whose ever taken the slightest interest in Warcraft lore. Sorry i really don't mean that as harshly as it sounds, just that this is the popular ciculating theory already. I have my own theories building on it, but since they are just that i know nobody is implying this should be added to the article quite yet. Best place to discuss this is the forums. Theres already a topic on the subject. 03:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Let me add one thing. Any theorycraft should be left out. But if someone wants to add the stuff that's already in game referencing An'she that would be great. 03:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Night elf priests worship Elune(Mu'sha) and not the Holy Light, so... An'she isn't also the Holy Light. Pudim17 (talk - contr) 20:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Note on the speculation
I apologise if there is too much speculation in the article - I hoped to make it exhaustive, without having too many 'tiers' of speculation, as there are still so many unknowns about An'she that are of dire importance to tauren roleplayers.

I realise that there is a lot of speculation on the Seers and Sunwalkers in particular, and not on An'she-proper. I felt that what these orders actually practice and believe has a lot of significance at this point in time, when we have such a small amount of conclusive lore concerning An'she.

Comments and suggestions are welcome, and I'll be updating related pages such as Sunwalkers and Seer when I find the time.--Weasel (talk) 11:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)