Template talk:Race

Addition suggestions
If you wish to have a race/creature added to this template, please make that request here. Providing the icon would greatly help as well.


 * Murloc Children
 * Wyverns
 * Gryphons
 * Hippogryphs

Extension
This is a nice template, I know the purpose was just to make quick things for the main playable races... but with this, we could remove all the multiple race templates currently used. 02:51, May 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Started to add a few, and fully removed arakkoa, replace them any time you see one.
 * 17:58, May 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it really necessary to consolidate the various troll and dwarf types? It just looks very large (especially for trolls), and is misleading since I can't think of any place where the template would be used that would apply to every single dwarf or troll (except on the base dwarf and troll pages themselves). -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:19, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Zones with boxes that display Dwarf as a whole withouth precisions on which dwarf or troll it is.
 * And by the way, even if dwarf have 5 icons and troll 6, that's not so much more than dragons or elementals who have 4 icons.
 * 18:22, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * But how many zones contain every single kind of troll or every single kind of dwarf? And actually, I'd probably split up elementals into their various subtypes as well. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would not put all dwarves and all trolls in one grp, you're likely to never use it that way. And if you do encounter instances of each type of troll in the same area, you'd want to split them up anyway. Now for elementals.. If you use elemental it should use all 4 types, only when you specify which type, should it just use the one icon. 20:58, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Eredar should also be displaying the Man'ari eredar icons rather than the draenei ones. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:20, May 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well not really, because Eredar are said to be like Draenei and Man'ari have twisted and mutated from their original form.
 * Or am I mistaking?
 * 07:40, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Technically yes, the draenei are the original eredar race. Unless Blizzard pulls a "surprise!" in the future, though, there are no remaining "pure" eredar who aren't with the draenei, and the word "eredar" is used almost universally to refer to the man'ari eredar. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 17:05, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm finishing the template and its doc, I let you decide which icons you prefer.
 * 17:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well... there are a few Eredar like Velen, but for the man'ari simply use Man'ari. 17:19, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Velen is a drenei, as are all the rest. They're not a racial offshoot; they're the original eredar who have renamed themselves to distance themselves from their demonic brethren. Even the man'ari eredar page redirects to eredar. There are not currently any eredar in the game (or even known in the universe) who are neither draenei nor man'ari. The other problem with the racial "man'ari" template is that it implies that is their name; it isn't. It's simply a description. Everyone always refers to them as eredar. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:35, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Playable Races
This template lacks the capability to link to the "(playable)" race pages for when it's used in various gameplay tables and such. Shouldn't there be -p version for each or something to do this? -- 17:08, July 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Makes sense to me, as long as we don't get confusing. (Awesome to see this template in action by the way!) 21:25, July 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Edit: we actually have RaceIcon that kinda covers that. However, once the general move to this template from individual NPC races is sorted, perhaps that one should get merged into this one?

When I originally created this template... I designed it for the 10 (at the time) playable races with a link to " (playable)". Can we get that back? -- k_d3 02:45, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * This template changed his purpose, he was redesigned to replace the multiple
 * 06:25, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe kd3 is suggesting adding a "playable" parameter. 13:59, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ow. My bad.
 * Does  is ok to you all?
 * Not to self: "Learn to read morron."
 * 14:33, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * No need to be so harsh on yourself! I think that style works. 19:05, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Or a  to detect if the race is playable or not. -- 19:30, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do we want to display:
 * Human and Human (playable)?
 * or
 * Human (playable) only?
 * 20:57, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Should be displaying as normal unless people state they're refering to the playable race in the template, in which case only the playable one should be linked. I can't think of any sensible case for displaying both, as it looses its meaning and looks silly. -- 22:16, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * So we go for the word (playable) after the race's name?
 * 22:29, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * IconSmall Human Male.gifIconSmall Human Female.gif Human
 * -- 09:09, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I meant the parameter. Do we add "Race (playable)" to the list? or something else?
 * 13:08, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Woops, lol. I'm not really bothered. After that experience subst'ing the template, i think there's probably far too many verbose ones already.
 * (playable) seems perfectly fine as it matches the page name and is obvious. -- 13:23, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * (playable) seems perfectly fine as it matches the page name and is obvious. -- 13:23, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Titanic watcher
As there aren't any titans, but only there watchers in WoW, shouldn't we change Race|Titan to Race|Titanic Watcher ? DeSatyr (talk) 14:59, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that they weren't titans... 21:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Freya herself, for example, is called daughter of the titans, so I assume she's none. DeSatyr (talk) 16:55, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Sea vrykul
I think all mentions of sea vrykul should be changed to kvaldir.-- 22:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought this was already agreed upon... when did that change... 22:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Suggested Changes
i'm trying some suggestions: What do you think?--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Remove Drakeadon from the chromatic flight, they have lost their only association with the chromatic flight by being used by the twiligh flight
 * Add more icons to each elemental race template example: Earth Elemental i used these four since the limits seems to be 5 icons per template(could add unbound or bound elementals) since these 4 are consistent in the elemental hierarchy(missing 2 prince but that i don't think it matter)
 * Add Nerubian spiderlord to nerubian
 * Add qiraji prophet and emperor to qiraji


 * I would prefer to stick with one male and one female only, or only one icon if the subject has several types or is ambiguously gendered.-- 04:57, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What SWM said. The point of the icons is to give a quick visual reference for the race, not to be representative of every single individual within that race. Two icons serves this purpose; a long string of icons just looks excessive. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree very much so with what they said... and I really want to limit how many icons are allowed in this... depending on the name size, should the icons cause the one race/creature to need 2 lines in the infobox, then it has too many icons. This is a problem with the dragonflights. I can't remember if it was ok with 4 icons, but 5 is too much. 23:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Such a long name, it probably only stayed on one line with just one icon. 23:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Still think you should remove drakeadon and add some icons to each individual elemental, maybe the unbound and bound ones.--Ashbear160 (talk) 00:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Your first point (likely about the Drakeadon Mongrels) is seemingly speculation, and your second point is the opposite of what three other people have said.-- 00:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ash's Topics:

Commentaries: DTZ spoke absurds for me: If the point is guive visual REFERENCE of the template, the template should make REFERENCE to more icons that reference the entire race as possible. But I agree with the fact that we should avoid put in more than one line. Despite this I prefer take two lines instead remove or don't add some icons, in certain cases. Basically I'm with Ash. 2X3, for now. But may numbers don't be the solution to the discussion And I go to, due this, make...
 * 1 - No. The Drakeadon don't lost their associationjust becouse they work TOO in another faction. **Also: Can someone change the order of first and second icons of the chromatic ones? It's to match the order of the Drakes of the another dragonflights.
 * 2 - Can be... but I have my doubts
 * The Rest - Completely agreeded.

...more requests:
Gabrirt (talk) 03:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A - The subtemplate "Troll" reffers unfairly just to jungle troll Icons, excluding the other subspecies (being excluded is horrible, no? :D). So I propouse: " Troll".
 * B - "Faceless one" have very few (just one) icons so, please addd more to reference the others types; " Faceless one".
 * C - Naga as well: " Naga" (or create "" refering to " Naga").
 * D - Create an icon for Forgotten one.
 * E - Create to refer  Elemental ascendant.
 * F - Create Unbound elemental.
 * G - As well: Bound elemental.
 * H - Improve or create: Ghoul.
 * I - Improve: Elemental.